diff --git a/aurorastation.dme b/aurorastation.dme
index 55e1e7d7a92..f13ba16a605 100644
--- a/aurorastation.dme
+++ b/aurorastation.dme
@@ -151,6 +151,7 @@
 #include "code\__DEFINES\turfs.dm"
 #include "code\__DEFINES\typeids.dm"
 #include "code\__DEFINES\verbs.dm"
+#include "code\__DEFINES\vv.dm"
 #include "code\__DEFINES\webhook.dm"
 #include "code\__DEFINES\wires.dm"
 #include "code\__DEFINES\xenoarch.dm"
@@ -422,6 +423,7 @@
 #include "code\datums\category.dm"
 #include "code\datums\computerfiles.dm"
 #include "code\datums\datum.dm"
+#include "code\datums\datumvars.dm"
 #include "code\datums\feedback.dm"
 #include "code\datums\late_choices.dm"
 #include "code\datums\local_network.dm"
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/_flags.dm b/code/__DEFINES/_flags.dm
index 0b7ecadf5b1..79d9e700376 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/_flags.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/_flags.dm
@@ -5,6 +5,7 @@ GLOBAL_LIST_INIT(bitflags, list(1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 204
 
 // for /datum/var/datum_flags
 #define DF_USE_TAG (1<<0)
+#define DF_VAR_EDITED (1<<1)
 #define DF_ISPROCESSING (1<<2)
 
 ///Whether /atom/Initialize() has already run for the object
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/vv.dm b/code/__DEFINES/vv.dm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..8fd54b4a159
--- /dev/null
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/vv.dm
@@ -0,0 +1,15 @@
+//#define IS_VALID_ASSOC_KEY(V) (istext(V) || ispath(V) || isdatum(V) || islist(V))
+#define IS_VALID_ASSOC_KEY(V) (!isnum(V)) //hhmmm..
+
+// vv_do_basic() keys
+#define VV_HK_BASIC_EDIT "datumedit"
+#define VV_HK_BASIC_CHANGE "datumchange"
+//This differs from TG
+#define VV_HK_BASIC_MASSEDIT "datummass"
+
+// /datum
+#define VV_HK_CALLPROC "proc_call"
+#define VV_HK_MARK "mark"
+
+//Helpers for vv_get_dropdown() - yes this is different from the tg one, cope
+#define VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION(href_key, name) . += "<option value='?_src_=vars;[href_key]=[REF(src)]'>[name]</option>"
diff --git a/code/datums/datum.dm b/code/datums/datum.dm
index 4d5b9bc2535..79b3621ca32 100644
--- a/code/datums/datum.dm
+++ b/code/datums/datum.dm
@@ -148,17 +148,6 @@
 	for(var/target in _signal_procs)
 		UnregisterSignal(target, _signal_procs[target])
 
-/datum/proc/can_vv_get(var_name)
-	return TRUE
-
-/datum/proc/vv_edit_var(var_name, var_value) //called whenever a var is edited
-	if(var_name == NAMEOF(src, vars))
-		return FALSE
-	if(!can_vv_get(var_name))
-		return FALSE
-	vars[var_name] = var_value
-	return TRUE
-
 ///Generate a tag for this /datum, if it implements one
 ///Should be called as early as possible, best would be in New, to avoid weakref mistargets
 ///Really just don't use this, you don't need it, global lists will do just fine MOST of the time
diff --git a/code/datums/datumvars.dm b/code/datums/datumvars.dm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..943313fed8c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/code/datums/datumvars.dm
@@ -0,0 +1,30 @@
+/datum/proc/can_vv_get(var_name)
+	return TRUE
+
+/// Called when a var is edited with the new value to change to
+/datum/proc/vv_edit_var(var_name, var_value)
+	if(var_name == NAMEOF(src, vars))
+		return FALSE
+	if(!can_vv_get(var_name)) //This if block does not exist in tgstation code
+		return FALSE
+	vars[var_name] = var_value
+	datum_flags |= DF_VAR_EDITED
+	return TRUE
+
+/**
+ * Gets all the dropdown options in the vv menu.
+ * When overriding, make sure to call . = ..() first and appent to the result, that way parent items are always at the top and child items are further down.
+ * Add seperators by doing VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("", "---")
+ */
+/datum/proc/vv_get_dropdown()
+	SHOULD_CALL_PARENT(TRUE)
+
+	. = list()
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("", "---")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION(VV_HK_CALLPROC, "Call Proc")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION(VV_HK_MARK, "Mark Object")
+
+/datum/proc/vv_get_header()
+	. = list()
+	if(("name" in vars) && !isatom(src))
+		. += "<b>[vars["name"]]</b><br>"
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/admin_verbs.dm b/code/modules/admin/admin_verbs.dm
index b0ce4ee642a..bf14c5ef1f1 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/admin_verbs.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/admin_verbs.dm
@@ -744,7 +744,7 @@ var/list/admin_verbs_cciaa = list(
 	set name = "Toggle Build Mode Self"
 	set category = "Special Verbs"
 
-	if(!check_rights(R_ADMIN))
+	if(!check_rights(R_ADMIN|R_SPAWN))
 		return
 	var/datum/click_handler/handler = mob.GetClickHandler()
 	if(handler.type == /datum/click_handler/build_mode)
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/verbs/modifyvariables.dm b/code/modules/admin/verbs/modifyvariables.dm
index 967f4585917..5c00a049d44 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/verbs/modifyvariables.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/verbs/modifyvariables.dm
@@ -165,7 +165,13 @@ var/list/VVdynamic_lock = list(
 
 /client/proc/mod_list(var/list/L, atom/O, original_name, objectvar)
 	if(!check_rights(R_VAREDIT|R_DEV))	return
-	if(!istype(L,/list)) to_chat(src, "Not a List.")
+	if(!islist(L))
+		//May the omnissiah forgive me for this
+		if(tgui_alert(usr, "Not a list, make it a list?", "Make list", list("Yes", "No")) == "Yes")
+			O.vars[objectvar] = list()
+			L = O.vars[objectvar]
+		else
+			return
 
 	if(L.len > 1000)
 		var/confirm = alert(src, "The list you're trying to edit is very long, continuing may crash the server.", "Warning", "Continue", "Abort")
@@ -314,7 +320,10 @@ var/list/VVdynamic_lock = list(
 				L[L.Find(variable)] = variable
 
 		if("edit referenced object")
-			modify_variables(variable)
+			if(islist(L?[variable]))
+				mod_list(L[variable], O, original_name, objectvar)
+			else
+				modify_variables(variable)
 
 		if("DELETE FROM LIST")
 			world.log <<  "### ListVarEdit by [src]: [O.type] [objectvar]: REMOVED=[html_encode("[variable]")]"
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/helpers.dm b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/helpers.dm
index 514316691c4..5ba0756622d 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/helpers.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/helpers.dm
@@ -1,8 +1,6 @@
-/datum/proc/get_view_variables_header()
-	return "<b>[src]</b>"
-
-/atom/get_view_variables_header()
-	return {"
+/atom/vv_get_header()
+	. = ..()
+	. += {"
 		<a href='?_src_=vars;datumedit=[REF(src)];varnameedit=name'><b>[src]</b></a>
 		<br><font size='1'>
 		<a href='?_src_=vars;rotatedatum=[REF(src)];rotatedir=left'><<</a>
@@ -11,10 +9,10 @@
 		</font>
 		"}
 
-/mob/living/get_view_variables_header()
-	return {"
-		<a href='?_src_=vars;rename=[REF(src)]'><b>[src]</b></a><font size='1'>
-		<br><a href='?_src_=vars;rotatedatum=[REF(src)];rotatedir=left'><<</a> <a href='?_src_=vars;datumedit=[REF(src)];varnameedit=dir'>[dir2text(dir)]</a> <a href='?_src_=vars;rotatedatum=[REF(src)];rotatedir=right'>>></a>
+/mob/living/vv_get_header()
+	. = ..()
+	. += {"
+		<br><font size='1'>
 		<br><a href='?_src_=vars;datumedit=[REF(src)];varnameedit=ckey'>[ckey ? ckey : "No ckey"]</a> / <a href='?_src_=vars;datumedit=[REF(src)];varnameedit=real_name'>[real_name ? real_name : "No real name"]</a>
 		<br>
 		BRUTE:<a href='?_src_=vars;mobToDamage=[REF(src)];adjustDamage=brute'>[getBruteLoss()]</a>
@@ -26,60 +24,47 @@
 		</font>
 		"}
 
-/datum/proc/get_view_variables_options()
-	return ""
+/mob/vv_get_dropdown()
+	. = ..()
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("mob_player_panel", "Show player panel")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("", "---")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("give_spell", "Give Spell")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("godmode", "Toggle Godmode")
 
-/mob/get_view_variables_options()
-	return ..() + {"
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;mob_player_panel=[REF(src)]'>Show player panel</option>
-		<option>---</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;give_spell=[REF(src)]'>Give Spell</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;give_disease2=[REF(src)]'>Give Disease</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;give_disease=[REF(src)]'>Give TG-style Disease</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;godmode=[REF(src)]'>Toggle Godmode</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;build_mode=[REF(src)]'>Toggle Build Mode</option>
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("make_skeleton", "Make 2spooky")
 
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;ninja=[REF(src)]'>Make Space Ninja</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;make_skeleton=[REF(src)]'>Make 2spooky</option>
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("direct_control", "Assume Direct Control")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("drop_everything", "Drop Everything")
 
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;direct_control=[REF(src)]'>Assume Direct Control</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;drop_everything=[REF(src)]'>Drop Everything</option>
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("regenerateicons", "Regenerate Icons")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("addlanguage", "Add Language")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("remlanguage", "Remove Language")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("addorgan", "Add Organ")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("remorgan", "Remove Organ")
 
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;regenerateicons=[REF(src)]'>Regenerate Icons</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;addlanguage=[REF(src)]'>Add Language</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;remlanguage=[REF(src)]'>Remove Language</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;addorgan=[REF(src)]'>Add Organ</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;remorgan=[REF(src)]'>Remove Organ</option>
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("addverb", "Add Verb")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("remverb", "Remove Verb")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("", "---")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("gib", "Gib")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("dust", "Turn to dust")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("explode", "Trigger explosion")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("emp", "Trigger EM pulse")
 
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;fix_nano=[REF(src)]'>Fix NanoUI</option>
+/mob/living/carbon/human/vv_get_dropdown()
+	. = ..()
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("setspecies", "Set Species")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("makeai", "Make AI")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("makerobot", "Make cyborg")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("makemonkey", "Make monkey")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("makeslime", "Make slime")
 
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;addverb=[REF(src)]'>Add Verb</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;remverb=[REF(src)]'>Remove Verb</option>
-		<option>---</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;gib=[REF(src)]'>Gib</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;dust=[REF(src)]'>Turn to dust</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;explode=[REF(src)]'>Trigger explosion</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;emp=[REF(src)]'>Trigger EM pulse</option>
-		"}
+/obj/vv_get_dropdown()
+	. = ..()
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("delall", "Delete all of type")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("explode", "Trigger explosion")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("emp", "Trigger EM pulse")
 
-/mob/living/carbon/human/get_view_variables_options()
-	return ..() + {"
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;setspecies=[REF(src)]'>Set Species</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;makeai=[REF(src)]'>Make AI</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;makerobot=[REF(src)]'>Make cyborg</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;makemonkey=[REF(src)]'>Make monkey</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;makeslime=[REF(src)]'>Make slime</option>
-		"}
-
-/obj/get_view_variables_options()
-	return ..() + {"
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;delall=[REF(src)]'>Delete all of type</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;explode=[REF(src)]'>Trigger explosion</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;emp=[REF(src)]'>Trigger EM pulse</option>
-		"}
-
-/turf/get_view_variables_options()
-	return ..() + {"
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;explode=[REF(src)]'>Trigger explosion</option>
-		<option value='?_src_=vars;emp=[REF(src)]'>Trigger EM pulse</option>
-		"}
+/turf/vv_get_dropdown()
+	. = ..()
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("explode", "Trigger explosion")
+	VV_DROPDOWN_OPTION("emp", "Trigger EM pulse")
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/topic.dm b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/topic.dm
index 3dab1edd738..036a7dbc9e3 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/topic.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/topic.dm
@@ -29,30 +29,30 @@
 
 		href_list["datumrefresh"] = href_list["rename"]
 
-	else if(href_list["varnameedit"] && href_list["datumedit"])
+	else if(href_list["varnameedit"] && href_list[VV_HK_BASIC_EDIT])
 		if(!check_rights(R_VAREDIT|R_DEV))	return
 
-		var/D = locate(href_list["datumedit"])
+		var/D = locate(href_list[VV_HK_BASIC_EDIT])
 		if(!istype(D,/datum) && !istype(D,/client))
 			to_chat(usr, "This can only be used on instances of types /client or /datum")
 			return
 
 		modify_variables(D, href_list["varnameedit"], 1)
 
-	else if(href_list["varnamechange"] && href_list["datumchange"])
+	else if(href_list["varnamechange"] && href_list[VV_HK_BASIC_CHANGE])
 		if(!check_rights(R_VAREDIT|R_DEV))	return
 
-		var/D = locate(href_list["datumchange"])
+		var/D = locate(href_list[VV_HK_BASIC_CHANGE])
 		if(!istype(D,/datum) && !istype(D,/client))
 			to_chat(usr, "This can only be used on instances of types /client or /datum")
 			return
 
 		modify_variables(D, href_list["varnamechange"], 0)
 
-	else if(href_list["varnamemass"] && href_list["datummass"])
+	else if(href_list["varnamemass"] && href_list[VV_HK_BASIC_MASSEDIT])
 		if(!check_rights(R_VAREDIT|R_DEV))	return
 
-		var/atom/A = locate(href_list["datummass"])
+		var/atom/A = locate(href_list[VV_HK_BASIC_MASSEDIT])
 		if(!istype(A))
 			to_chat(usr, "This can only be used on instances of type /atom")
 			return
@@ -230,16 +230,16 @@
 		src.cmd_admin_emp(A)
 		href_list["datumrefresh"] = href_list["emp"]
 
-	else if(href_list["mark_object"])
+	else if(href_list[VV_HK_MARK])
 		if(!check_rights(0))	return
 
-		var/datum/D = locate(href_list["mark_object"])
+		var/datum/D = locate(href_list[VV_HK_MARK])
 		if(!istype(D))
 			to_chat(usr, "This can only be done to instances of type /datum")
 			return
 
 		src.holder.marked_datum = D
-		href_list["datumrefresh"] = href_list["mark_object"]
+		href_list["datumrefresh"] = href_list[VV_HK_MARK]
 
 	else if(href_list["rotatedatum"])
 		if(!check_rights(0))	return
@@ -395,7 +395,7 @@
 				possibleverbs += typesof(/mob/living/silicon/proc,/mob/living/silicon/robot/proc,/mob/living/silicon/robot/verb)
 			if(/mob/living/silicon/ai)
 				possibleverbs += typesof(/mob/living/silicon/proc,/mob/living/silicon/ai/proc,/mob/living/silicon/ai/verb)
-		remove_verb(H, H.verbs)
+		possibleverbs -= H.verbs
 		possibleverbs += "Cancel" 								// ...And one for the bottom
 
 		var/verb = input("Select a verb!", "Verbs",null) as anything in possibleverbs
@@ -507,8 +507,8 @@
 			message_admins(SPAN_NOTICE("[key_name(usr)] dealt [amount] amount of [Text] damage to [L]"))
 			href_list["datumrefresh"] = href_list["mobToDamage"]
 
-	else if(href_list["call_proc"])
-		var/datum/D = locate(href_list["call_proc"])
+	else if(href_list[VV_HK_CALLPROC])
+		var/datum/D = locate(href_list[VV_HK_CALLPROC])
 		if(istype(D) || istype(D, /client)) // can call on clients too, not just datums
 			callproc_targetpicked(1, D)
 
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/view_variables.dm b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/view_variables.dm
index 87d517314df..2b36c8c3639 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/view_variables.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/view_variables.dm
@@ -5,8 +5,6 @@
 /var/list/view_variables_hide_vars = list("bound_x", "bound_y", "bound_height", "bound_width", "bounds", "parent_type", "step_x", "step_y", "step_size")
 // Variables not to expand the lists of. Vars is pointless to expand, and overlays/underlays cannot be expanded.
 /var/list/view_variables_dont_expand = list("overlays", "underlays", "vars", "screen", "our_overlays", "priority_overlays", "queued_overlays")
-// Variables that runtime if you try to test associativity of the lists they contain by indexing
-/var/list/view_variables_no_assoc = list("verbs", "contents", "vis_contents")
 
 // Acceptable 'in world', as VV would be incredibly hampered otherwise
 /client/proc/debug_variables(datum/D in world)
@@ -14,31 +12,37 @@
 	set name = "View Variables"
 	debug_variables_open(D)
 
-/client/proc/debug_variables_open(var/datum/D, var/search = "")
+/client/proc/debug_variables_open(datum/thing, search = "")
 	if(!check_rights(0))
 		return
 
-	if(!D)
+	if(!thing)
 		return
 
 	var/static/list/blacklist = list(/datum/configuration)
-	if(is_type_in_list(D,blacklist))
+	if(is_type_in_list(thing,blacklist))
 		return
 
+	var/islist = islist(thing) || (!isdatum(thing) && hascall(thing, "Cut")) // Some special lists dont count as lists, but can be detected by if they have list procs
+
 	var/icon/sprite
-	if(istype(D, /atom))
-		var/atom/A = D
+	if(istype(thing, /atom))
+		var/atom/A = thing
 		if(A.icon && A.icon_state)
 			sprite = icon(A.icon, A.icon_state)
 			send_rsc(usr, sprite, "view_vars_sprite.png")
 
 	send_rsc(usr, 'code/js/view_variables.js', "view_variables.js")
 
+	var/list/header = islist ? list("<b>/list</b>") : thing.vv_get_header()
+
+	var/list/dropdownoptions = thing.vv_get_dropdown()
+
 	var/html = {"
 		<html>
 		<head>
 			<script src='view_variables.js'></script>
-			<title>[D] ([REF(D)] - [D.type])</title>
+			<title>[thing] ([REF(thing)] - [thing.type])</title>
 			<style>
 				body { font-family: Arial, "Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; }
 				.key, .type, .value { font-family: "Fira Code", Consolas, Menlo, Monaco, "Lucida Console", "Liberation Mono", "DejaVu Sans Mono", "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono", "Courier New", monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt; }
@@ -52,16 +56,16 @@
 					<td width='50%'>
 						<table align='center' width='100%'><tr>
 							[sprite ? "<td><img src='view_vars_sprite.png'></td>" : ""]
-							<td><div align='center'>[D.get_view_variables_header()]</div></td>
+							<td><div align='center'>[header.Join()]</div></td>
 						</tr></table>
 						<div align='center'>
-							<b><font size='1'>[replacetext("[get_debug_type(D)]", "/", "/<wbr>")]</font></b>
-							[holder.marked_datum == D ? "<br/><font size='1' color='red'><b>Marked Object</b></font>" : ""]
+							<b><font size='1'>[replacetext("[get_debug_type(thing)]", "/", "/<wbr>")]</font></b>
+							[holder.marked_datum == thing ? "<br/><font size='1' color='red'><b>Marked Object</b></font>" : ""]
 						</div>
 					</td>
 					<td width='50%'>
 						<div align='center'>
-							<a id='refresh' data-initial-href='?_src_=vars;datumrefresh=[REF(D)];search=' href='?_src_=vars;datumrefresh=[REF(D)];search=[search]'>Refresh</a>
+							<a id='refresh' data-initial-href='?_src_=vars;datumrefresh=[REF(thing)];search=' href='?_src_=vars;datumrefresh=[REF(thing)];search=[search]'>Refresh</a>
 							<form>
 								<select name='file'
 										size='1'
@@ -70,10 +74,7 @@
 										onmouseclick='this.focus()'
 										style='background-color:#ffffff'>
 									<option>Select option</option>
-									<option />
-									<option value='?_src_=vars;mark_object=[REF(D)]'>Mark Object</option>
-									<option value='?_src_=vars;call_proc=[REF(D)]'>Call Proc</option>
-									[D.get_view_variables_options()]
+									[dropdownoptions.Join()]
 								</select>
 							</form>
 						</div>
@@ -105,13 +106,13 @@
 			</tr></table>
 			<hr/>
 			<ol id='vars'>
-				[make_view_variables_var_list(D)]
+				[make_view_variables_var_list(thing)]
 			</ol>
 		</body>
 		</html>
 		"}
 
-	usr << browse(html, "window=variables[REF(D)];size=520x720")
+	usr << browse(html, "window=variables[REF(thing)];size=520x720")
 
 
 /proc/make_view_variables_var_list(datum/D)
@@ -155,18 +156,19 @@
 		vtext = "<a href='?_src_=vars;Vars=[REF(C)]'>[REF(C)]</a> - [C] ([C.type])"
 	else if(islist(value))
 		var/list/L = value
-		vtext = "([L.len])"
-		if(!(varname in view_variables_dont_expand) && L.len > 0 && L.len < 100)
+		vtext = "/list ([length(L)])"
+		if(!(varname in view_variables_dont_expand) && length(L) > 0 && length(L) < 100)
 			extra += "<ul>"
-			for (var/index = 1 to L.len)
+			for(var/index = 1 to length(L))
 				var/entry = L[index]
-				if(!isnum(entry) && !isnull(entry) && !(varname in view_variables_no_assoc) && L[entry] != null)
-					extra += "<li>[index]: [make_view_variables_value(D, entry)] -> [make_view_variables_value(D, L[entry])]</li>"
-				else
-					extra += "<li>[index]: [make_view_variables_value(D, entry)]</li>"
+				if(IS_NORMAL_LIST(L) && IS_VALID_ASSOC_KEY(entry))
+					if(!isnull(L[entry]))
+						extra += "<li>[index]: [make_view_variables_value(entry)] -> [make_view_variables_value(L[entry])]</li>"
+					else
+						extra += "<li>[index]: [make_view_variables_value(entry)]</li>"
 			extra += "</ul>"
-		else if(L.len >= 100)
-			vtext = "([L.len]): <ul><li><a href='?_src_=vars;datumview=[REF(L)];varnameview=[varname];original_datum=[REF(D)]'>List too large to display, click to view.</a></ul>"
+		else if(length(L) >= 100)
+			vtext = "([length(L)]): <ul><li><a href='?_src_=vars;datumview=[REF(L)];varnameview=[varname]'>List too large to display, click to view.</a></ul>"
 
 	else
 		vtext = "[value]"
@@ -177,6 +179,7 @@
 	var/ecm = null
 
 	if(D)
+		//These are the VV_HK_BASIC_* defines
 		ecm = {"
 			(<a href='?_src_=vars;datumedit=[REF(D)];varnameedit=[varname]'>E</a>)
 			(<a href='?_src_=vars;datumchange=[REF(D)];varnamechange=[varname]'>C</a>)
diff --git a/html/changelogs/fluffyghost-vvandfixes.yml b/html/changelogs/fluffyghost-vvandfixes.yml
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..28869e80209
--- /dev/null
+++ b/html/changelogs/fluffyghost-vvandfixes.yml
@@ -0,0 +1,66 @@
+################################
+# Example Changelog File
+#
+# Note: This file, and files beginning with ".", and files that don't end in ".yml" will not be read. If you change this file, you will look really dumb.
+#
+# Your changelog will be merged with a master changelog. (New stuff added only, and only on the date entry for the day it was merged.)
+# When it is, any changes listed below will disappear.
+#
+# Valid Prefixes:
+#   bugfix
+#     - (fixes bugs)
+#   wip
+#     - (work in progress)
+#   qol
+#     - (quality of life)
+#   soundadd
+#     - (adds a sound)
+#   sounddel
+#     - (removes a sound)
+#   rscadd
+#     - (adds a feature)
+#   rscdel
+#     - (removes a feature)
+#   imageadd
+#     - (adds an image or sprite)
+#   imagedel
+#     - (removes an image or sprite)
+#   spellcheck
+#     - (fixes spelling or grammar)
+#   experiment
+#     - (experimental change)
+#   balance
+#     - (balance changes)
+#   code_imp
+#     - (misc internal code change)
+#   refactor
+#     - (refactors code)
+#   config
+#     - (makes a change to the config files)
+#   admin
+#     - (makes changes to administrator tools)
+#   server
+#     - (miscellaneous changes to server)
+#################################
+
+# Your name.
+author: FluffyGhost
+
+# Optional: Remove this file after generating master changelog.  Useful for PR changelogs that won't get used again.
+delete-after: True
+
+# Any changes you've made.  See valid prefix list above.
+# INDENT WITH TWO SPACES.  NOT TABS.  SPACES.
+# SCREW THIS UP AND IT WON'T WORK.
+# Also, this gets changed to [] after reading.  Just remove the brackets when you add new shit.
+# Please surround your changes in  double quotes ("). It works without them, but if you use certain characters it screws up compiling. The quotes will not show up in the changelog.
+changes:
+  - refactor: "Refactored various procs used by VV: Header generation, dropdown menu generation, moved various things around, some defines."
+  - bugfix: "Fixed VV to be able to edit associative lists."
+  - bugfix: "Fixed VV to be able to make a list ex nihilo on a var."
+  - code_imp: "Removed various dropdown menus that didn't exist anymore and were doing nothing."
+  - bugfix: "Fixed add verb option to not wipe the already existing verbs of the mob."
+  - bugfix: "Fixed a runtime error on some lists view building that were not handled correctly."
+  - bugfix: "Fixed an issue with build mode not having the correct permissions for devs."
+  - bugfix: "Fixed an issue with editing a list referenced by a key in another list via the edit referenced object option."
+  - code_imp: "Added DF_VAR_EDITED flag."