diff --git a/code/game/objects/items/climbingrope.dm b/code/game/objects/items/climbingrope.dm
index 2c96d1844b1..03178604074 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/items/climbingrope.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/items/climbingrope.dm
@@ -32,20 +32,23 @@
 		return
 	if(!istype(target) || isopenspaceturf(target))
 		return
-	if(target.is_blocked_turf(exclude_mobs = TRUE))
-		return
+	
 	var/turf/user_turf = get_turf(user)
 	var/turf/above = GET_TURF_ABOVE(user_turf)
+	if(target_blocked(target, above))
+		return
 	if(!isopenspaceturf(above) || !above.Adjacent(target)) //are we below a hole, is the target blocked, is the target adjacent to our hole
 		balloon_alert(user, "blocked!")
 		return
+
 	var/away_dir = get_dir(above, target)
 	user.visible_message(span_notice("[user] begins climbing upwards with [src]."), span_notice("You get to work on properly hooking [src] and going upwards."))
 	playsound(target, 'sound/effects/picaxe1.ogg', 50) //plays twice so people above and below can hear
 	playsound(user_turf, 'sound/effects/picaxe1.ogg', 50)
 	var/list/effects = list(new /obj/effect/temp_visual/climbing_hook(target, away_dir), new /obj/effect/temp_visual/climbing_hook(user_turf, away_dir))
+
 	if(do_after(user, climb_time, target))
-		user.Move(target)
+		user.forceMove(target)
 		uses--
 
 	if(uses <= 0)
@@ -54,6 +57,23 @@
 
 	QDEL_LIST(effects)
 
+// didnt want to mess up is_blocked_turf_ignore_climbable
+/// checks if our target is blocked, also checks for border objects facing the above turf and climbable stuff
+/obj/item/climbing_hook/proc/target_blocked(turf/target, turf/above)
+	if(target.density || above.density)
+		return TRUE
+
+	for(var/atom/movable/atom_content as anything in target.contents)
+		if(isliving(atom_content))
+			continue
+		if(HAS_TRAIT(atom_content, TRAIT_CLIMBABLE))
+			continue
+		if((atom_content.flags_1 & ON_BORDER_1) && atom_content.dir != get_dir(target, above)) //if the border object is facing the hole then it is blocking us, likely
+			continue
+		if(atom_content.density)
+			return TRUE
+	return FALSE
+
 /obj/item/climbing_hook/emergency
 	name = "emergency climbing hook"
 	desc = "An emergency climbing hook to scale up holes. The rope is EXTREMELY cheap and may not withstand extended use."