diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/wounds.dm b/code/__DEFINES/wounds.dm
index 763bdb4405a..5d060da2443 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/wounds.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/wounds.dm
@@ -8,6 +8,8 @@
 #define WOUND_MINIMUM_DAMAGE		5
 /// an attack must do this much damage after armor in order to be eliigible to dismember a suitably mushed bodypart
 #define DISMEMBER_MINIMUM_DAMAGE	10
+/// If an attack rolls this high with their wound (including mods), we try to outright dismember the limb. Note 250 is high enough that with a perfect max roll of 145 (see max cons'd damage), you'd need +100 in mods to do this
+#define WOUND_DISMEMBER_OUTRIGHT_THRESH	250
 /// set wound_bonus on an item or attack to this to disable checking wounding for the attack
 #define CANT_WOUND -100
 
diff --git a/code/datums/components/gunpoint.dm b/code/datums/components/gunpoint.dm
index 512cc202870..4c55d00c734 100644
--- a/code/datums/components/gunpoint.dm
+++ b/code/datums/components/gunpoint.dm
@@ -1,8 +1,16 @@
+/// How many tiles around the target the shooter can roam without losing their shot
 #define GUNPOINT_SHOOTER_STRAY_RANGE 2
-#define GUNPOINT_DELAY_STAGE_2 25
-#define GUNPOINT_DELAY_STAGE_3 75 // cumulative with past stages, so 100 deciseconds
+/// How long it takes from the gunpoint is initiated to reach stage 2
+#define GUNPOINT_DELAY_STAGE_2 2.5 SECONDS
+/// How long it takes from stage 2 starting to move up to stage 3
+#define GUNPOINT_DELAY_STAGE_3 7.5 SECONDS
+/// If the projectile doesn't have a wound_bonus of CANT_WOUND, we add (this * the stage mult) to their wound_bonus and bare_wound_bonus upon triggering
+#define GUNPOINT_BASE_WOUND_BONUS	5
+/// How much the damage and wound bonus mod is multiplied when you're on stage 1
 #define GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_1 1
+/// As above, for stage 2
 #define GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_2 2
+/// As above, for stage 3
 #define GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_3 2.5
 
 
@@ -64,27 +72,30 @@
 	UnregisterSignal(parent, COMSIG_MOB_ATTACK_HAND)
 	UnregisterSignal(parent, list(COMSIG_LIVING_START_PULL, COMSIG_MOVABLE_BUMP))
 
+///If the shooter bumps the target, cancel the holdup to avoid cheesing and forcing the charged shot
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/check_bump(atom/B, atom/A)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
-	var/mob/living/T = A
-	if(T && T == target)
-		var/mob/living/shooter = parent
-		shooter.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[shooter] bumps into [target] and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>", \
-			"<span class='danger'>You bump into [target] and fumble your aim!</span>", target)
-		to_chat(target, "<span class='userdanger'>[shooter] bumps into you and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>")
-		qdel(src)
+	if(A != target)
+		return
+	var/mob/living/shooter = parent
+	shooter.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[shooter] bumps into [target] and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>", \
+		"<span class='danger'>You bump into [target] and fumble your aim!</span>", target)
+	to_chat(target, "<span class='userdanger'>[shooter] bumps into you and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>")
+	qdel(src)
 
+///If the shooter shoves or grabs the target, cancel the holdup to avoid cheesing and forcing the charged shot
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/check_shove(mob/living/carbon/shooter, mob/shooter_again, mob/living/T)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
-	if(T == target && (shooter.a_intent == INTENT_DISARM || shooter.a_intent == INTENT_GRAB))
-		shooter.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[shooter] bumps into [target] and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>", \
-			"<span class='danger'>You bump into [target] and fumble your aim!</span>", target)
-		to_chat(target, "<span class='userdanger'>[shooter] bumps into you and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>")
-		qdel(src)
+	if(T != target || shooter.a_intent == INTENT_DISARM || shooter.a_intent == INTENT_GRAB)
+		return
+	shooter.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[shooter] bumps into [target] and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>", \
+		"<span class='danger'>You bump into [target] and fumble your aim!</span>", target)
+	to_chat(target, "<span class='userdanger'>[shooter] bumps into you and fumbles [shooter.p_their()] aim!</span>")
+	qdel(src)
 
-// if you're gonna try to break away from a holdup, better to do it right away
+///Update the damage multiplier for whatever stage we're entering into
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/update_stage(new_stage)
 	stage = new_stage
 	if(stage == 2)
@@ -97,22 +108,26 @@
 		to_chat(target, "<span class='userdanger'>[parent] has fully steadied [weapon] on you!</span>")
 		damage_mult = GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_3
 
+///Cancel the holdup if the shooter moves out of sight or out of range of the target
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/check_deescalate()
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
 	if(!can_see(parent, target, GUNPOINT_SHOOTER_STRAY_RANGE - 1))
 		cancel()
 
+///Bang bang, we're firing a charged shot off
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/trigger_reaction()
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER_DOES_SLEEP
 
+	var/mob/living/shooter = parent
+	shooter.remove_status_effect(STATUS_EFFECT_HOLDUP) // try doing these before the trigger gets pulled since the target (or shooter even) may not exist after pulling the trigger, dig?
+	target.remove_status_effect(STATUS_EFFECT_HELDUP)
 	SEND_SIGNAL(target, COMSIG_CLEAR_MOOD_EVENT, "gunpoint")
+
 	if(point_of_no_return)
 		return
 	point_of_no_return = TRUE
 
-	var/mob/living/shooter = parent
-
 	if(!weapon.can_shoot() || !weapon.can_trigger_gun(shooter) || (weapon.weapon_weight == WEAPON_HEAVY && shooter.get_inactive_held_item()))
 		shooter.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[shooter] fumbles [weapon]!</span>", \
 			"<span class='danger'>You fumble [weapon] and fail to fire at [target]!</span>", target)
@@ -122,13 +137,23 @@
 
 	if(weapon.chambered && weapon.chambered.BB)
 		weapon.chambered.BB.damage *= damage_mult
+		if(weapon.chambered.BB.wound_bonus != CANT_WOUND)
+			weapon.chambered.BB.wound_bonus += damage_mult * GUNPOINT_BASE_WOUND_BONUS
+			weapon.chambered.BB.bare_wound_bonus += damage_mult * GUNPOINT_BASE_WOUND_BONUS
 
 	if(weapon.check_botched(shooter))
 		return
 
-	weapon.process_fire(target, shooter)
+	var/fired = weapon.process_fire(target, shooter)
+	if(!fired && weapon.chambered?.BB)
+		weapon.chambered.BB.damage /= damage_mult
+		if(weapon.chambered.BB.wound_bonus != CANT_WOUND)
+			weapon.chambered.BB.wound_bonus -= damage_mult * GUNPOINT_BASE_WOUND_BONUS
+			weapon.chambered.BB.bare_wound_bonus -= damage_mult * GUNPOINT_BASE_WOUND_BONUS
+
 	qdel(src)
 
+///Shooter canceled their shot, either by dropping/equipping their weapon, leaving sight/range, or clicking on the alert
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/cancel()
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
@@ -139,10 +164,13 @@
 	SEND_SIGNAL(target, COMSIG_CLEAR_MOOD_EVENT, "gunpoint")
 	qdel(src)
 
+///If the shooter is hit by an attack, they have a 50% chance to flinch and fire. If it hit the arm holding the trigger, it's an 80% chance to fire instead
 /datum/component/gunpoint/proc/flinch(attacker, damage, damagetype, def_zone)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER_DOES_SLEEP
 
 	var/mob/living/shooter = parent
+	if(attacker == shooter)
+		return // somehow this wasn't checked for months but no one tried punching themselves to initiate the shot, amazing
 
 	var/flinch_chance = 50
 	var/gun_hand = LEFT_HANDS
@@ -161,6 +189,7 @@
 #undef GUNPOINT_SHOOTER_STRAY_RANGE
 #undef GUNPOINT_DELAY_STAGE_2
 #undef GUNPOINT_DELAY_STAGE_3
+#undef GUNPOINT_BASE_WOUND_BONUS
 #undef GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_1
 #undef GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_2
 #undef GUNPOINT_MULT_STAGE_3
diff --git a/code/datums/components/pellet_cloud.dm b/code/datums/components/pellet_cloud.dm
index 254aa94f86c..1c6e2fcf9a6 100644
--- a/code/datums/components/pellet_cloud.dm
+++ b/code/datums/components/pellet_cloud.dm
@@ -105,6 +105,11 @@
 	if(!zone_override)
 		zone_override = shooter.zone_selected
 
+	// things like mouth executions and gunpoints can multiply the damage and wounds of projectiles, so this makes sure those effects are applied to each pellet instead of just one
+	var/original_damage = shell.BB.damage
+	var/original_wb = shell.BB.wound_bonus
+	var/original_bwb = shell.BB.bare_wound_bonus
+
 	for(var/i in 1 to num_pellets)
 		shell.ready_proj(target, user, SUPPRESSED_VERY, zone_override, fired_from)
 		if(distro)
@@ -115,6 +120,9 @@
 
 		RegisterSignal(shell.BB, COMSIG_PROJECTILE_SELF_ON_HIT, .proc/pellet_hit)
 		RegisterSignal(shell.BB, list(COMSIG_PROJECTILE_RANGE_OUT, COMSIG_PARENT_QDELETING), .proc/pellet_range)
+		shell.BB.damage = original_damage
+		shell.BB.wound_bonus = original_wb
+		shell.BB.bare_wound_bonus = original_bwb
 		pellets += shell.BB
 		if(!shell.throw_proj(target, targloc, shooter, params, spread))
 			return
diff --git a/code/datums/wounds/loss.dm b/code/datums/wounds/loss.dm
index bc7e18a1831..1fd318cdd8b 100644
--- a/code/datums/wounds/loss.dm
+++ b/code/datums/wounds/loss.dm
@@ -5,28 +5,39 @@
 
 	sound_effect = 'sound/effects/dismember.ogg'
 	severity = WOUND_SEVERITY_LOSS
-	threshold_minimum = 180
+	threshold_minimum = WOUND_DISMEMBER_OUTRIGHT_THRESH // not actually used since dismembering is handled differently, but may as well assign it since we got it
 	status_effect_type = null
 	scar_keyword = "dismember"
 	wound_flags = null
 
 /// Our special proc for our special dismembering, the wounding type only matters for what text we have
-/datum/wound/loss/proc/apply_dismember(obj/item/bodypart/dismembered_part, wounding_type=WOUND_SLASH)
+/datum/wound/loss/proc/apply_dismember(obj/item/bodypart/dismembered_part, wounding_type=WOUND_SLASH, outright = FALSE)
 	if(!istype(dismembered_part) || !dismembered_part.owner || !(dismembered_part.body_zone in viable_zones) || isalien(dismembered_part.owner) || !dismembered_part.can_dismember())
 		qdel(src)
 		return
 
 	already_scarred = TRUE // so we don't scar a limb we don't have. If I add different levels of amputation desc, do it here
 
-	switch(wounding_type)
-		if(WOUND_BLUNT)
-			occur_text = "is shattered through the last bone holding it together, severing it completely!"
-		if(WOUND_SLASH)
-			occur_text = "is slashed through the last tissue holding it together, severing it completely!"
-		if(WOUND_PIERCE)
-			occur_text = "is pierced through the last tissue holding it together, severing it completely!"
-		if(WOUND_BURN)
-			occur_text = "is completely incinerated, falling to dust!"
+	if(outright)
+		switch(wounding_type)
+			if(WOUND_BLUNT)
+				occur_text = "is outright smashed to a gross pulp, severing it completely!"
+			if(WOUND_SLASH)
+				occur_text = "is outright slashed off, severing it completely!"
+			if(WOUND_PIERCE)
+				occur_text = "is outright blasted apart, severing it completely!"
+			if(WOUND_BURN)
+				occur_text = "is outright incinerated, falling to dust!"
+	else
+		switch(wounding_type)
+			if(WOUND_BLUNT)
+				occur_text = "is shattered through the last bone holding it together, severing it completely!"
+			if(WOUND_SLASH)
+				occur_text = "is slashed through the last tissue holding it together, severing it completely!"
+			if(WOUND_PIERCE)
+				occur_text = "is pierced through the last tissue holding it together, severing it completely!"
+			if(WOUND_BURN)
+				occur_text = "is completely incinerated, falling to dust!"
 
 	victim = dismembered_part.owner
 
diff --git a/code/datums/wounds/pierce.dm b/code/datums/wounds/pierce.dm
index c307f9582de..baf7125aeb4 100644
--- a/code/datums/wounds/pierce.dm
+++ b/code/datums/wounds/pierce.dm
@@ -131,7 +131,7 @@
 	internal_bleeding_chance = 30
 	internal_bleeding_coefficient = 1.25
 	threshold_minimum = 30
-	threshold_penalty = 15
+	threshold_penalty = 20
 	status_effect_type = /datum/status_effect/wound/pierce/moderate
 	scar_keyword = "piercemoderate"
 
@@ -148,7 +148,7 @@
 	internal_bleeding_chance = 60
 	internal_bleeding_coefficient = 1.5
 	threshold_minimum = 50
-	threshold_penalty = 25
+	threshold_penalty = 35
 	status_effect_type = /datum/status_effect/wound/pierce/severe
 	scar_keyword = "piercesevere"
 
@@ -165,7 +165,7 @@
 	internal_bleeding_chance = 80
 	internal_bleeding_coefficient = 1.75
 	threshold_minimum = 100
-	threshold_penalty = 40
+	threshold_penalty = 50
 	status_effect_type = /datum/status_effect/wound/pierce/critical
 	scar_keyword = "piercecritical"
 	wound_flags = (FLESH_WOUND | ACCEPTS_GAUZE | MANGLES_FLESH)
diff --git a/code/game/atoms.dm b/code/game/atoms.dm
index 7e295e075ec..6fdfbaeac04 100644
--- a/code/game/atoms.dm
+++ b/code/game/atoms.dm
@@ -19,9 +19,9 @@
 	var/flags_ricochet = NONE
 
 	///When a projectile tries to ricochet off this atom, the projectile ricochet chance is multiplied by this
-	var/ricochet_chance_mod = 1
+	var/receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 1
 	///When a projectile ricochets off this atom, it deals the normal damage * this modifier to this atom
-	var/ricochet_damage_mod = 0.33
+	var/receive_ricochet_damage_coeff = 0.33
 
 	///Reagents holder
 	var/datum/reagents/reagents = null
diff --git a/code/game/machinery/_machinery.dm b/code/game/machinery/_machinery.dm
index c9aafb38716..7bc293bf446 100644
--- a/code/game/machinery/_machinery.dm
+++ b/code/game/machinery/_machinery.dm
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@ Class Procs:
 	max_integrity = 200
 	layer = BELOW_OBJ_LAYER //keeps shit coming out of the machine from ending up underneath it.
 	flags_ricochet = RICOCHET_HARD
-	ricochet_chance_mod = 0.3
+	receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 0.3
 
 	anchored = TRUE
 	interaction_flags_atom = INTERACT_ATOM_ATTACK_HAND | INTERACT_ATOM_UI_INTERACT
diff --git a/code/game/machinery/doors/door.dm b/code/game/machinery/doors/door.dm
index 08aa0696e3f..b88aa3438e9 100644
--- a/code/game/machinery/doors/door.dm
+++ b/code/game/machinery/doors/door.dm
@@ -13,7 +13,7 @@
 	armor = list(MELEE = 30, BULLET = 30, LASER = 20, ENERGY = 20, BOMB = 10, BIO = 100, RAD = 100, FIRE = 80, ACID = 70)
 	CanAtmosPass = ATMOS_PASS_DENSITY
 	flags_1 = PREVENT_CLICK_UNDER_1
-	ricochet_chance_mod = 0.8
+	receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 0.8
 	damage_deflection = 10
 
 	interaction_flags_atom = INTERACT_ATOM_UI_INTERACT
diff --git a/code/game/objects/items/sharpener.dm b/code/game/objects/items/sharpener.dm
index a2a3e6a0305..eb3551bf643 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/items/sharpener.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/items/sharpener.dm
@@ -37,9 +37,10 @@
 		return
 	if(!(signal_out & COMPONENT_BLOCK_SHARPEN_APPLIED))
 		I.force = clamp(I.force + increment, 0, max)
+		I.wound_bonus = I.wound_bonus + increment
 	user.visible_message("<span class='notice'>[user] sharpens [I] with [src]!</span>", "<span class='notice'>You sharpen [I], making it much more deadly than before.</span>")
 	playsound(src, 'sound/items/unsheath.ogg', 25, TRUE)
-	I.sharpness = SHARP_POINTY
+	I.sharpness = SHARP_EDGED
 	I.throwforce = clamp(I.throwforce + increment, 0, max)
 	I.name = "[prefix] [I.name]"
 	name = "worn out [name]"
diff --git a/code/game/objects/objs.dm b/code/game/objects/objs.dm
index 4d1126983e8..4104a1424ba 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/objs.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/objs.dm
@@ -350,8 +350,8 @@
 
 /obj/handle_ricochet(obj/projectile/P)
 	. = ..()
-	if(. && ricochet_damage_mod)
-		take_damage(P.damage * ricochet_damage_mod, P.damage_type, P.flag, 0, turn(P.dir, 180), P.armour_penetration) // pass along ricochet_damage_mod damage to the structure for the ricochet
+	if(. && receive_ricochet_damage_coeff)
+		take_damage(P.damage * receive_ricochet_damage_coeff, P.damage_type, P.flag, 0, turn(P.dir, 180), P.armour_penetration) // pass along receive_ricochet_damage_coeff damage to the structure for the ricochet
 
 /obj/update_overlays()
 	. = ..()
diff --git a/code/game/objects/structures.dm b/code/game/objects/structures.dm
index cb2bfc273ba..8f83559622c 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/structures.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/structures.dm
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@
 	interaction_flags_atom = INTERACT_ATOM_ATTACK_HAND | INTERACT_ATOM_UI_INTERACT
 	layer = BELOW_OBJ_LAYER
 	flags_ricochet = RICOCHET_HARD
-	ricochet_chance_mod = 0.5
+	receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 0.6
 
 	var/climb_time = 20
 	var/climb_stun = 20
diff --git a/code/game/objects/structures/window.dm b/code/game/objects/structures/window.dm
index 9d5b3b76a52..092dcf2cbee 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/structures/window.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/structures/window.dm
@@ -27,7 +27,7 @@
 	var/breaksound = "shatter"
 	var/hitsound = 'sound/effects/Glasshit.ogg'
 	flags_ricochet = RICOCHET_HARD
-	ricochet_chance_mod = 0.4
+	receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 0.5
 
 
 /obj/structure/window/examine(mob/user)
@@ -371,7 +371,7 @@
 	state = RWINDOW_SECURE
 	glass_type = /obj/item/stack/sheet/rglass
 	rad_insulation = RAD_HEAVY_INSULATION
-	ricochet_chance_mod = 0.8
+	receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 1.1
 
 //this is shitcode but all of construction is shitcode and needs a refactor, it works for now
 //If you find this like 4 years later and construction still hasn't been refactored, I'm so sorry for this
@@ -683,7 +683,7 @@
 	explosion_block = 3
 	glass_type = /obj/item/stack/sheet/titaniumglass
 	glass_amount = 2
-	ricochet_chance_mod = 0.9
+	receive_ricochet_chance_mod = 1.2
 
 /obj/structure/window/shuttle/narsie_act()
 	add_atom_colour("#3C3434", FIXED_COLOUR_PRIORITY)
diff --git a/code/modules/cargo/goodies.dm b/code/modules/cargo/goodies.dm
index c071cbb4753..086de036429 100644
--- a/code/modules/cargo/goodies.dm
+++ b/code/modules/cargo/goodies.dm
@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@
 /datum/supply_pack/goody/hell_single
 	name = "Hellgun Single-Pack"
 	desc = "Contains one hellgun, an old pattern of laser gun infamous for its ability to horribly disfigure targets with burns. Technically violates the Space Geneva Convention when used on humanoids."
-	cost = 2000
+	cost = 2250
 	contains = list(/obj/item/gun/energy/laser/hellgun)
 
 /datum/supply_pack/goody/wt550_single
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/ammunition/ballistic/lmg.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/ammunition/ballistic/lmg.dm
index 724c1f6d2b0..b727e5dd727 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/ammunition/ballistic/lmg.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/ammunition/ballistic/lmg.dm
@@ -26,3 +26,8 @@
 	name = "7.12x82mm match bullet casing"
 	desc = "A 7.12x82mm bullet casing manufactured to unfailingly high standards, you could pull off some cool trickshots with this."
 	projectile_type = /obj/projectile/bullet/mm712x82_match
+
+/obj/item/ammo_casing/mm712x82/bouncy
+	name = "7.12x82mm rubber bullet casing"
+	desc = "A 7.12x82mm rubber bullet casing manufactured to unfailingly disastrous standards, you could piss off a lot of people spraying this down a hallway."
+	projectile_type = /obj/projectile/bullet/mm712x82_bouncy
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/_box_magazine.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/_box_magazine.dm
index 643b9af9c91..86431ec909d 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/_box_magazine.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/_box_magazine.dm
@@ -43,8 +43,27 @@
 			material_amount /= max_ammo
 			LAZYSET(bullet_cost, material, material_amount)
 	if(!start_empty)
-		for(var/i = 1, i <= max_ammo, i++)
-			stored_ammo += new ammo_type(src)
+		top_off(starting=TRUE)
+	update_icon()
+
+/**
+  * top_off is used to refill the magazine to max, in case you want to increase the size of a magazine with VV then refill it at once
+  *
+  * Arguments:
+  * * load_type - if you want to specify a specific ammo casing type to load, enter the path here, otherwise it'll use the basic [/obj/item/ammo_box/var/ammo_type]. Must be a compatible round
+  * * starting - Relevant for revolver cylinders, if FALSE then we mind the nulls that represent the empty cylinders (since those nulls don't exist yet if we haven't initialized when this is TRUE)
+  */
+/obj/item/ammo_box/proc/top_off(load_type, starting=FALSE)
+	if(!load_type) //this check comes first so not defining an argument means we just go with default ammo
+		load_type = ammo_type
+
+	var/obj/item/ammo_casing/round_check = load_type
+	if(!starting && (caliber && initial(round_check.caliber) != caliber) || (!caliber && load_type != ammo_type))
+		stack_trace("Tried loading unsupported ammocasing type [load_type] into ammo box [type].")
+		return
+
+	for(var/i = max(1, stored_ammo.len), i <= max_ammo, i++)
+		stored_ammo += new round_check(src)
 	update_icon()
 
 ///gets a round from the magazine, if keep is TRUE the round will stay in the gun
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/external/lmg.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/external/lmg.dm
index f1e3a5740a6..793c4cf14c9 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/external/lmg.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/external/lmg.dm
@@ -21,6 +21,14 @@
 	name = "box magazine (Match 7.12x82mm)"
 	ammo_type = /obj/item/ammo_casing/mm712x82/match
 
+/obj/item/ammo_box/magazine/mm712x82/bouncy
+	name = "box magazine (Rubber 7.12x82mm)"
+	ammo_type = /obj/item/ammo_casing/mm712x82/bouncy
+
+/obj/item/ammo_box/magazine/mm712x82/bouncy/hicap
+	name = "hi-cap box magazine (Rubber 7.12x82mm)"
+	max_ammo = 150
+
 /obj/item/ammo_box/magazine/mm712x82/update_icon()
 	..()
 	icon_state = "a762-[round(ammo_count(),10)]"
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/internal/_cylinder.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/internal/_cylinder.dm
index 9af0b0e0877..3ce4190109c 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/internal/_cylinder.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/boxes_magazines/internal/_cylinder.dm
@@ -47,3 +47,15 @@
 			return TRUE
 
 	return FALSE
+
+/obj/item/ammo_box/magazine/internal/cylinder/top_off(load_type, starting=FALSE)
+	if(starting) // nulls don't exist when we're starting off
+		return ..()
+
+	if(!load_type)
+		load_type = ammo_type
+
+	for(var/i = 1, i <= max_ammo, i++)
+		if(!give_round(new load_type(src)))
+			break
+	update_icon()
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/gun.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/gun.dm
index 3f6ae6059c3..8641a7c305d 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/gun.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/gun.dm
@@ -620,8 +620,14 @@
 
 	if(chambered && chambered.BB)
 		chambered.BB.damage *= 5
+		if(chambered.BB.wound_bonus != CANT_WOUND)
+			chambered.BB.wound_bonus += 5 // much more dramatic on multiple pellet'd projectiles really
 
-	process_fire(target, user, TRUE, params, BODY_ZONE_HEAD)
+	var/fired = process_fire(target, user, TRUE, params, BODY_ZONE_HEAD)
+	if(!fired && chambered?.BB)
+		chambered.BB.damage /= 5
+		if(chambered.BB.wound_bonus != CANT_WOUND)
+			chambered.BB.wound_bonus -= 5
 
 /obj/item/gun/proc/unlock() //used in summon guns and as a convience for admins
 	if(pin)
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/projectile.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/projectile.dm
index 25e13c73db4..1d1c1ab9bb6 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/projectile.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/projectile.dm
@@ -48,7 +48,7 @@
 	var/ricochets = 0
 	/// how many times we can ricochet max
 	var/ricochets_max = 0
-	/// 0-100, the base chance of ricocheting, before being modified by the atom we shoot and our chance decay
+	/// 0-100 (or more, I guess), the base chance of ricocheting, before being modified by the atom we shoot and our chance decay
 	var/ricochet_chance = 0
 	/// 0-1 (or more, I guess) multiplier, the ricochet_chance is modified by multiplying this after each ricochet
 	var/ricochet_decay_chance = 0.7
@@ -290,6 +290,9 @@
 	beam_segments[beam_index] = null
 
 /obj/projectile/Bump(atom/A)
+	if(!trajectory)
+		qdel(src)
+		return
 	var/datum/point/pcache = trajectory.copy_to()
 	var/turf/T = get_turf(A)
 	if(ricochets < ricochets_max && check_ricochet_flag(A) && check_ricochet(A))
@@ -377,7 +380,7 @@
 	//Returns null if nothing at all was found.
 
 /obj/projectile/proc/check_ricochet(atom/A)
-	var/chance = ricochet_chance * A.ricochet_chance_mod
+	var/chance = ricochet_chance * A.receive_ricochet_chance_mod
 	if(firer && HAS_TRAIT(firer, TRAIT_NICE_SHOT))
 		chance += NICE_SHOT_RICOCHET_BONUS
 	if(prob(chance))
diff --git a/code/modules/projectiles/projectile/bullets/lmg.dm b/code/modules/projectiles/projectile/bullets/lmg.dm
index e05240a7369..8691cdf9664 100644
--- a/code/modules/projectiles/projectile/bullets/lmg.dm
+++ b/code/modules/projectiles/projectile/bullets/lmg.dm
@@ -55,5 +55,14 @@
 	ricochets_max = 2
 	ricochet_chance = 60
 	ricochet_auto_aim_range = 4
-	ricochet_incidence_leeway = 35
+	ricochet_incidence_leeway = 55
 	wound_bonus = -50
+
+/obj/projectile/bullet/mm712x82_bouncy
+	name = "7.12x82mm rubber bullet"
+	damage = 25
+	ricochets_max = 40
+	ricochet_chance = 500 // will bounce off anything and everything, whether they like it or not
+	ricochet_auto_aim_range = 4
+	ricochet_incidence_leeway = 0
+	ricochet_decay_chance = 0.9
diff --git a/code/modules/surgery/bodyparts/_bodyparts.dm b/code/modules/surgery/bodyparts/_bodyparts.dm
index 9e8406e0f85..e0ad366a4b3 100644
--- a/code/modules/surgery/bodyparts/_bodyparts.dm
+++ b/code/modules/surgery/bodyparts/_bodyparts.dm
@@ -367,6 +367,11 @@
 	injury_roll += check_woundings_mods(woundtype, damage, wound_bonus, bare_wound_bonus)
 	var/list/wounds_checking = GLOB.global_wound_types[woundtype]
 
+	if(injury_roll > WOUND_DISMEMBER_OUTRIGHT_THRESH && (get_damage() / max_damage * 50))
+		var/datum/wound/loss/dismembering = new
+		dismembering.apply_dismember(src, woundtype, outright=TRUE)
+		return
+
 	// quick re-check to see if bare_wound_bonus applies, for the benefit of log_wound(), see about getting the check from check_woundings_mods() somehow
 	if(ishuman(owner))
 		var/mob/living/carbon/human/human_wearer = owner