diff --git a/code/_globalvars/admin.dm b/code/_globalvars/admin.dm
index f614061366c..22c6f2de9e5 100644
--- a/code/_globalvars/admin.dm
+++ b/code/_globalvars/admin.dm
@@ -12,3 +12,19 @@ GLOBAL_VAR(stickbanadminexemptiontimerid) //stores the timerid of the callback t
 GLOBAL_LIST_INIT_TYPED(smites, /datum/smite, init_smites())
 
 GLOBAL_VAR_INIT(admin_notice, "") // Admin notice that all clients see when joining the server
+
+// A list of all the special byond lists that need to be handled different by vv
+GLOBAL_LIST_INIT(vv_special_lists, init_special_list_names())
+
+/proc/init_special_list_names()
+	var/list/output = list()
+	var/obj/sacrifice = new
+	for(var/varname in sacrifice.vars)
+		var/value = sacrifice.vars[varname]
+		if(!islist(value))
+			if(!isdatum(value) && hascall(value, "Cut"))
+				output[varname] = TRUE
+			continue
+		if(isnull(locate(REF(value))))
+			output[varname] = TRUE
+	return output
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/debug_variables.dm b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/debug_variables.dm
index ea119597ffa..01cc3953901 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/view_variables/debug_variables.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/view_variables/debug_variables.dm
@@ -64,10 +64,15 @@
 		var/datum/datum_value = value
 		return datum_value.debug_variable_value(name, level, owner, sanitize, display_flags)
 
-	if(islist(value) || hascall(value, "Cut")) // Some special lists arent detectable as a list through istype, so we check if it has a list proc instead
+	if(islist(value) || GLOB.vv_special_lists[name]) // Some special lists arent detectable as a list through istype
 		var/list/list_value = value
 		var/list/items = list()
 
+		// This is becuse some lists either dont count as lists or a locate on their ref will return null
+		var/link_vars = "Vars=[REF(value)]"
+		if(GLOB.vv_special_lists[name])
+			link_vars = "Vars=[REF(owner)];special_varname=[name]"
+
 		if (!(display_flags & VV_ALWAYS_CONTRACT_LIST) && list_value.len > 0 && list_value.len <= (IS_NORMAL_LIST(list_value) ? VV_NORMAL_LIST_NO_EXPAND_THRESHOLD : VV_SPECIAL_LIST_NO_EXPAND_THRESHOLD))
 			for (var/i in 1 to list_value.len)
 				var/key = list_value[i]
@@ -80,9 +85,9 @@
 
 				items += debug_variable(key, val, level + 1, sanitize = sanitize)
 
-			return "<a href='?_src_=vars;[HrefToken()];Vars=[REF(owner)];special_varname=[name]'>/list ([list_value.len])</a><ul>[items.Join()]</ul>"
+			return "<a href='?_src_=vars;[HrefToken()];[link_vars]'>/list ([list_value.len])</a><ul>[items.Join()]</ul>"
 		else
-			return "<a href='?_src_=vars;[HrefToken()];Vars=[REF(owner)];special_varname=[name]'>/list ([list_value.len])</a>"
+			return "<a href='?_src_=vars;[HrefToken()];[link_vars]'>/list ([list_value.len])</a>"
 
 	if(name in GLOB.bitfields)
 		var/list/flags = list()