diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/layers.dm b/code/__DEFINES/layers.dm
index 930aaaa67fa..cca6686e99c 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/layers.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/layers.dm
@@ -66,9 +66,6 @@
 
 #define FULLSCREEN_PLANE 23
 
-///Visuals that represent sounds happening, and can be seen while blind.
-#define SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE 25
-
 ///--------------- FULLSCREEN RUNECHAT BUBBLES ------------
 
 ///Popup Chat Messages
@@ -213,10 +210,11 @@
 #define CRIT_LAYER 5
 #define CURSE_LAYER 6
 
-///--------------- SOUND EFFECT VISUALS ------------
+#define FOV_EFFECT_LAYER 100
+
+///--------------- FULLSCREEN RUNECHAT BUBBLES ------------
 /// Bubble for typing indicators
-#define TYPING_LAYER 1
-#define FOV_EFFECTS_LAYER 2 //Blindness effects are not layer 4, they lie to you
+#define TYPING_LAYER 500
 
 #define RADIAL_BACKGROUND_LAYER 0
 ///1000 is an unimportant number, it's just to normalize copied layers
diff --git a/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master.dm b/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master.dm
index 4a163a6e347..f0c1c99a9b7 100644
--- a/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master.dm
+++ b/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master.dm
@@ -507,14 +507,6 @@ INITIALIZE_IMMEDIATE(/atom/movable/screen/plane_master)
 	mouse_opacity = MOUSE_OPACITY_TRANSPARENT
 	allows_offsetting = FALSE
 
-/atom/movable/screen/plane_master/sound_effect_visual
-	name = "Sound Effect Visuals"
-	documentation = "Holds anything that is a game visual, but is displayed over fullscreen effects. \
-		<br>Displayed over fullscreen effects, but still under runechat and the HUD."
-	plane = SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE
-	render_relay_planes = list(RENDER_PLANE_NON_GAME)
-	mouse_opacity = MOUSE_OPACITY_TRANSPARENT
-
 /atom/movable/screen/plane_master/runechat
 	name = "Runechat"
 	documentation = "Holds runechat images, that text that pops up when someone say something. Uses a dropshadow to well, look nice."
diff --git a/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master_controller.dm b/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master_controller.dm
index 71e0032e908..58fc1bb9963 100644
--- a/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master_controller.dm
+++ b/code/_onclick/hud/rendering/plane_master_controller.dm
@@ -117,7 +117,6 @@ INITIALIZE_IMMEDIATE(/atom/movable/plane_master_controller)
 		PIPECRAWL_IMAGES_PLANE,
 		HIGH_GAME_PLANE,
 		FULLSCREEN_PLANE,
-		SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE,
 		RUNECHAT_PLANE,
 		HUD_PLANE,
 		ABOVE_HUD_PLANE,
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/living_fov.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/living_fov.dm
index a0d9cf34b39..e5b98f8eeb8 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/living_fov.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/living_fov.dm
@@ -89,9 +89,9 @@
 //did you know you can subtype /image and /mutable_appearance? // Stop telling them that they might actually do it
 /image/fov_image
 	icon = 'icons/effects/fov/fov_effects.dmi'
-	layer = FOV_EFFECTS_LAYER
+	layer = EFFECTS_LAYER + FOV_EFFECT_LAYER
 	appearance_flags = RESET_COLOR | RESET_TRANSFORM
-	plane = SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE
+	plane = FULLSCREEN_PLANE
 
 /// Plays a visual effect representing a sound cue for people with vision obstructed by FOV or blindness
 /proc/play_fov_effect(atom/center, range, icon_state, dir = SOUTH, ignore_self = FALSE, angle = 0, list/override_list)
@@ -110,7 +110,6 @@
 		if(!fov_image) //Make the image once we found one recipient to receive it
 			fov_image = new()
 			fov_image.loc = anchor_point
-			SET_PLANE(fov_image, SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE, anchor_point)
 			fov_image.icon_state = icon_state
 			fov_image.dir = dir
 			if(angle)
diff --git a/code/modules/tgui_input/say_modal/typing.dm b/code/modules/tgui_input/say_modal/typing.dm
index 082f01278e2..13f0055d0a0 100644
--- a/code/modules/tgui_input/say_modal/typing.dm
+++ b/code/modules/tgui_input/say_modal/typing.dm
@@ -77,8 +77,9 @@
 /mob/living/create_thinking_indicator()
 	if(active_thinking_indicator || active_typing_indicator || !thinking_IC || stat != CONSCIOUS )
 		return FALSE
-	active_thinking_indicator = mutable_appearance('icons/mob/effects/talk.dmi', "[bubble_icon]3", TYPING_LAYER, src, SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE)
+	active_thinking_indicator = mutable_appearance('icons/mob/effects/talk.dmi', "[bubble_icon]3", TYPING_LAYER)
 	add_overlay(active_thinking_indicator)
+	play_fov_effect(src, 6, "talk", ignore_self = TRUE)
 
 /mob/living/remove_thinking_indicator()
 	if(!active_thinking_indicator)
@@ -89,8 +90,9 @@
 /mob/living/create_typing_indicator()
 	if(active_typing_indicator || active_thinking_indicator || !thinking_IC || stat != CONSCIOUS)
 		return FALSE
-	active_typing_indicator = mutable_appearance('icons/mob/effects/talk.dmi', "[bubble_icon]0", TYPING_LAYER, src, SOUND_EFFECT_VISUAL_PLANE)
+	active_typing_indicator = mutable_appearance('icons/mob/effects/talk.dmi', "[bubble_icon]0", TYPING_LAYER)
 	add_overlay(active_typing_indicator)
+	play_fov_effect(src, 6, "talk", ignore_self = TRUE)
 
 /mob/living/remove_typing_indicator()
 	if(!active_typing_indicator)
diff --git a/icons/effects/fov/fov_effects.dmi b/icons/effects/fov/fov_effects.dmi
index d5b7de38a45..2ba9d11f579 100644
Binary files a/icons/effects/fov/fov_effects.dmi and b/icons/effects/fov/fov_effects.dmi differ