diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_global.dm b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_global.dm
index 0c2c4be8685..4e5a8938fec 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_global.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_global.dm
@@ -43,8 +43,6 @@
 #define COMSIG_GLOB_RANDOM_EVENT "!random_event"
 	/// Do not allow this random event to continue.
 	#define CANCEL_RANDOM_EVENT (1<<0)
-/// a person somewhere has thrown something : (mob/living/carbon/carbon_thrower, target)
-#define COMSIG_GLOB_CARBON_THROW_THING	"!throw_thing"
 /// a trapdoor remote has sent out a signal to link with a trapdoor
 #define COMSIG_GLOB_TRAPDOOR_LINK "!trapdoor_link"
 	///successfully linked to a trapdoor!
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_carbon.dm b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_carbon.dm
index 650dc560a4a..1aa28be695a 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_carbon.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_carbon.dm
@@ -146,9 +146,6 @@
 ///from base of /mob/living/carbon/regenerate_limbs(): (excluded_limbs)
 #define COMSIG_CARBON_REGENERATE_LIMBS "living_regen_limbs"
 
-///from /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/handle_transfer(): (taker, item)
-#define COMSIG_CARBON_ITEM_GIVEN "carbon_item_given"
-
 /// Sent from /mob/living/carbon/human/handle_blood(): (seconds_per_tick, times_fired)
 #define COMSIG_HUMAN_ON_HANDLE_BLOOD "human_on_handle_blood"
 	/// Return to prevent all default blood handling
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_living.dm b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_living.dm
index f849817d24c..5a6e982d32a 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_living.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_mob/signals_mob_living.dm
@@ -293,8 +293,10 @@
 	///cancel post eating
 	#define COMSIG_MOB_TERMINATE_EAT (1<<0)
 
-///From mob/living/carbon/proc/throw_mode_on and throw_mode_off
+///From mob/living/proc/throw_mode_on and throw_mode_off
 #define COMSIG_LIVING_THROW_MODE_TOGGLE "living_throw_mode_toggle"
+///from /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/handle_transfer(): (taker, item)
+#define COMSIG_LIVING_ITEM_GIVEN "living_item_given"
 /// From mob/living/proc/on_fall
 #define COMSIG_LIVING_THUD "living_thud"
 ///From /datum/component/happiness()
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_object.dm b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_object.dm
index a113f0b88e8..b693999cddb 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_object.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/dcs/signals/signals_object.dm
@@ -179,11 +179,11 @@
 #define COMSIG_ARMOR_PLATED "armor_plated"
 ///Called when an item gets recharged by the ammo powerup
 #define COMSIG_ITEM_RECHARGED "item_recharged"
-///Called when an item is being offered, from [/obj/item/proc/on_offered(mob/living/carbon/offerer)]
+///Called when an item is being offered, from [/obj/item/proc/on_offered(mob/living/offerer)]
 #define COMSIG_ITEM_OFFERING "item_offering"
 	///Interrupts the offer proc
 	#define COMPONENT_OFFER_INTERRUPT (1<<0)
-///Called when an someone tries accepting an offered item, from [/obj/item/proc/on_offer_taken(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/taker)]
+///Called when an someone tries accepting an offered item, from [/obj/item/proc/on_offer_taken(mob/living/offerer, mob/living/taker)]
 #define COMSIG_ITEM_OFFER_TAKEN "item_offer_taken"
 	///Interrupts the offer acceptance
 	#define COMPONENT_OFFER_TAKE_INTERRUPT (1<<0)
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/keybinding.dm b/code/__DEFINES/keybinding.dm
index 8ae95933e64..61f73e5c584 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/keybinding.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/keybinding.dm
@@ -22,9 +22,6 @@
 //Carbon
 #define COMSIG_KB_CARBON_HOLDRUNMOVEINTENT_DOWN "keybinding_carbon_holdrunmoveintent_down"
 #define COMSIG_KB_CARBON_HOLDRUNMOVEINTENT_UP "keybinding_carbon_holdrunmoveintent_up"
-#define COMSIG_KB_CARBON_TOGGLETHROWMODE_DOWN "keybinding_carbon_togglethrowmode_down"
-#define COMSIG_KB_CARBON_HOLDTHROWMODE_DOWN "keybinding_carbon_holdthrowmode_down"
-#define COMSIG_KB_CARBON_GIVEITEM_DOWN "keybinding_carbon_giveitem_down"
 
 //Client
 #define COMSIG_KB_CLIENT_GETHELP_DOWN "keybinding_client_gethelp_down"
@@ -57,6 +54,9 @@
 #define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_DISABLE_COMBAT_DOWN "keybinding_living_disable_combat_down"
 #define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_TOGGLEMOVEINTENT_DOWN "keybinding_mob_togglemoveintent_down"
 #define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_TOGGLEMOVEINTENTALT_DOWN "keybinding_mob_togglemoveintentalt_down"
+#define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_TOGGLETHROWMODE_DOWN "keybinding_living_togglethrowmode_down"
+#define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_HOLDTHROWMODE_DOWN "keybinding_living_holdthrowmode_down"
+#define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_GIVEITEM_DOWN "keybinding_living_giveitem_down"
 #define COMSIG_KB_LIVING_VIEW_PET_COMMANDS "keybinding_living_view_pet_commands"
 
 //Mob
diff --git a/code/__DEFINES/traits/declarations.dm b/code/__DEFINES/traits/declarations.dm
index 1ec5a3191ff..9203aa63286 100644
--- a/code/__DEFINES/traits/declarations.dm
+++ b/code/__DEFINES/traits/declarations.dm
@@ -60,6 +60,8 @@ Remember to update _globalvars/traits.dm if you're adding/removing/renaming trai
 #define TRAIT_CLUMSY "clumsy"
 /// Trait that means you are capable of holding items in some form
 #define TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS "can_hold_items"
+/// Trait that means you're capable of throwing things
+#define TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS "can_throw_items"
 /// Trait which lets you clamber over a barrier
 #define TRAIT_FENCE_CLIMBER "can_climb_fences"
 /// means that you can't use weapons with normal trigger guards.
diff --git a/code/_globalvars/traits/_traits.dm b/code/_globalvars/traits/_traits.dm
index e26587019ea..a8df896fa82 100644
--- a/code/_globalvars/traits/_traits.dm
+++ b/code/_globalvars/traits/_traits.dm
@@ -210,6 +210,7 @@ GLOBAL_LIST_INIT(traits_by_type, list(
 		"TRAIT_CAN_MOUNT_HUMANS" = TRAIT_CAN_MOUNT_HUMANS,
 		"TRAIT_CAN_SIGN_ON_COMMS" = TRAIT_CAN_SIGN_ON_COMMS,
 		"TRAIT_CAN_STRIP" = TRAIT_CAN_STRIP,
+		"TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS" = TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS,
 		"TRAIT_CAN_USE_NUKE" = TRAIT_CAN_USE_NUKE,
 		"TRAIT_CATLIKE_GRACE" = TRAIT_CATLIKE_GRACE,
 		"TRAIT_CHANGELING_HIVEMIND_MUTE" = TRAIT_CHANGELING_HIVEMIND_MUTE,
diff --git a/code/_globalvars/traits/admin_tooling.dm b/code/_globalvars/traits/admin_tooling.dm
index 74c2b86e291..5f90572f0c5 100644
--- a/code/_globalvars/traits/admin_tooling.dm
+++ b/code/_globalvars/traits/admin_tooling.dm
@@ -62,6 +62,7 @@ GLOBAL_LIST_INIT(admin_visible_traits, list(
 		"TRAIT_BYPASS_MEASURES" = TRAIT_BYPASS_MEASURES,
 		"TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS" = TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS,
 		"TRAIT_CAN_STRIP" = TRAIT_CAN_STRIP,
+		"TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS" = TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS,
 		"TRAIT_CAN_USE_NUKE" = TRAIT_CAN_USE_NUKE,
 		"TRAIT_CANNOT_BE_UNBUCKLED" = TRAIT_CANNOT_BE_UNBUCKLED,
 		"TRAIT_CANNOT_OPEN_PRESENTS" = TRAIT_CANNOT_OPEN_PRESENTS,
diff --git a/code/_onclick/hud/alert.dm b/code/_onclick/hud/alert.dm
index 2178554bf00..1b4a043678a 100644
--- a/code/_onclick/hud/alert.dm
+++ b/code/_onclick/hud/alert.dm
@@ -343,14 +343,13 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 /**
  * Handles assigning most of the variables for the alert that pops up when an item is offered
  *
- * Handles setting the name, description and icon of the alert and tracking the person giving
+ * Handles setting the name, description and icon of the alert and tracking the living mob giving
  * and the item being offered.
  * Arguments:
- * * taker - The person receiving the alert
- * * offerer - The person giving the alert and item
- * * receiving - The item being given by the offerer
+ * * taker - The living mob receiving the alert
+ * * offer - The status effect connected to the offer being made
  */
-/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/setup(mob/living/carbon/taker, datum/status_effect/offering/offer)
+/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/setup(mob/living/taker, datum/status_effect/offering/offer)
 	src.offer = offer
 
 	var/mob/living/offerer = offer.owner
@@ -377,7 +376,7 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
  * Returns a string that will be displayed in the alert, which is `receiving.name`
  * by default.
  */
-/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/get_receiving_name(mob/living/carbon/taker, mob/living/carbon/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
+/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/get_receiving_name(mob/living/taker, mob/living/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
 	return receiving.name
 
 /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/Click(location, control, params)
@@ -385,7 +384,7 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 	if(!.)
 		return
 
-	if(!iscarbon(usr))
+	if(!isliving(usr))
 		CRASH("User for [src] is of type \[[usr.type]\]. This should never happen.")
 
 	handle_transfer()
@@ -402,11 +401,11 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 
 /// An overrideable proc used simply to hand over the item when claimed, this is a proc so that high-fives can override them since nothing is actually transferred
 /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/proc/handle_transfer()
-	var/mob/living/carbon/taker = owner
+	var/mob/living/taker = owner
 	var/mob/living/offerer = offer.owner
 	var/obj/item/receiving = offer.offered_item
 	taker.take(offerer, receiving)
-	SEND_SIGNAL(offerer, COMSIG_CARBON_ITEM_GIVEN, taker, receiving)
+	SEND_SIGNAL(offerer, COMSIG_LIVING_ITEM_GIVEN, taker, receiving)
 
 /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive
 	additional_desc_text = "Click this alert to slap it."
@@ -415,10 +414,10 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 	/// Tracks active "to slow"ing so we can't spam click
 	var/too_slowing_this_guy = FALSE
 
-/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive/get_receiving_name(mob/living/carbon/taker, mob/living/carbon/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
+/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive/get_receiving_name(mob/living/taker, mob/living/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
 	return "a high-five"
 
-/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive/setup(mob/living/carbon/taker, datum/status_effect/offering/offer)
+/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive/setup(mob/living/taker, datum/status_effect/offering/offer)
 	. = ..()
 	RegisterSignal(offer.owner, COMSIG_ATOM_EXAMINE_MORE, PROC_REF(check_fake_out))
 
@@ -426,7 +425,7 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 	if(too_slowing_this_guy)
 		return
 
-	var/mob/living/carbon/taker = owner
+	var/mob/living/taker = owner
 	var/mob/living/offerer = offer.owner
 	var/obj/item/receiving = offer.offered_item
 	if(!QDELETED(receiving) && offerer.is_holding(receiving))
@@ -437,7 +436,7 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 
 /// If the person who offered the high five no longer has it when we try to accept it, we get pranked hard
 /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive/proc/too_slow_p1()
-	var/mob/living/carbon/rube = owner
+	var/mob/living/rube = owner
 	var/mob/living/offerer = offer?.owner
 	if(QDELETED(rube) || QDELETED(offerer))
 		qdel(src)
@@ -450,7 +449,7 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 
 /// Part two of the ultimate prank
 /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/highfive/proc/too_slow_p2()
-	var/mob/living/carbon/rube = owner
+	var/mob/living/rube = owner
 	var/mob/living/offerer = offer?.owner
 	if(!QDELETED(rube) && !QDELETED(offerer))
 		offerer.visible_message(span_danger("[offerer] pulls away from [rube]'s slap at the last second, dodging the high-five entirely!"), span_nicegreen("[rube] fails to make contact with your hand, making an utter fool of [rube.p_them()]self!"), span_hear("You hear a disappointing sound of flesh not hitting flesh!"), ignored_mobs=rube)
@@ -474,13 +473,13 @@ or shoot a gun to move around via Newton's 3rd Law of Motion."
 	screentip_override_text = "Take Hand"
 	examinable = FALSE
 
-/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/hand/get_receiving_name(mob/living/carbon/taker, mob/living/carbon/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
+/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/hand/get_receiving_name(mob/living/taker, mob/living/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
 	additional_desc_text = "Click this alert to take it and let [offerer.p_them()] pull you around!"
 	return "[offerer.p_their()] [receiving.name]"
 
 /atom/movable/screen/alert/give/hand/helping
 
-/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/hand/helping/get_receiving_name(mob/living/carbon/taker, mob/living/carbon/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
+/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/hand/helping/get_receiving_name(mob/living/taker, mob/living/offerer, obj/item/receiving)
 	. = ..()
 	additional_desc_text = "Click this alert to let them help you up!"
 
diff --git a/code/_onclick/hud/generic_dextrous.dm b/code/_onclick/hud/generic_dextrous.dm
index 134f91a2b8d..b7f7f7af739 100644
--- a/code/_onclick/hud/generic_dextrous.dm
+++ b/code/_onclick/hud/generic_dextrous.dm
@@ -31,6 +31,11 @@
 	floor_change.icon = 'icons/hud/screen_midnight.dmi'
 	static_inventory += floor_change
 
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(owner, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS))
+		throw_icon = new /atom/movable/screen/throw_catch(null, src)
+		throw_icon.icon = ui_style
+		throw_icon.screen_loc = ui_drop_throw
+		static_inventory += throw_icon
 
 	zone_select = new /atom/movable/screen/zone_sel(null, src)
 	zone_select.icon = ui_style
diff --git a/code/_onclick/hud/screen_objects.dm b/code/_onclick/hud/screen_objects.dm
index a7eab74eebc..036e2e4b988 100644
--- a/code/_onclick/hud/screen_objects.dm
+++ b/code/_onclick/hud/screen_objects.dm
@@ -544,9 +544,9 @@
 	mouse_over_pointer = MOUSE_HAND_POINTER
 
 /atom/movable/screen/throw_catch/Click()
-	if(iscarbon(usr))
-		var/mob/living/carbon/C = usr
-		C.toggle_throw_mode()
+	if(isliving(usr))
+		var/mob/living/user = usr
+		user.toggle_throw_mode()
 
 /atom/movable/screen/zone_sel
 	name = "damage zone"
diff --git a/code/datums/elements/dextrous.dm b/code/datums/elements/dextrous.dm
index 1896257eeec..f242a7e9163 100644
--- a/code/datums/elements/dextrous.dm
+++ b/code/datums/elements/dextrous.dm
@@ -4,13 +4,15 @@
  */
 /datum/element/dextrous
 
-/datum/element/dextrous/Attach(datum/target, hands_count = 2, hud_type = /datum/hud/dextrous)
+/datum/element/dextrous/Attach(datum/target, hands_count = 2, hud_type = /datum/hud/dextrous, can_throw = FALSE)
 	. = ..()
 	if (!isliving(target) || iscarbon(target))
 		return ELEMENT_INCOMPATIBLE // Incompatible with the carbon typepath because that already has its own hand handling and doesn't need hand holding
 
 	var/mob/living/mob_parent = target
 	set_available_hands(mob_parent, hands_count)
+	if(can_throw)
+		ADD_TRAIT(target, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS, REF(src)) // need to add before hud setup
 	mob_parent.hud_type = hud_type
 	if (mob_parent.hud_used)
 		mob_parent.set_hud_used(new hud_type(target))
diff --git a/code/datums/elements/high_fiver.dm b/code/datums/elements/high_fiver.dm
index 249a9f4059d..09372937725 100644
--- a/code/datums/elements/high_fiver.dm
+++ b/code/datums/elements/high_fiver.dm
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
 	UnregisterSignal(source, list(COMSIG_ITEM_OFFERING, COMSIG_ITEM_OFFER_TAKEN))
 
 /// Signal proc for [COMSIG_ITEM_OFFERING] to set up the high-five on offer
-/datum/element/high_fiver/proc/on_offer(obj/item/source, mob/living/carbon/offerer)
+/datum/element/high_fiver/proc/on_offer(obj/item/source, mob/living/offerer)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
 	offerer.visible_message(
@@ -31,7 +31,7 @@
 	return COMPONENT_OFFER_INTERRUPT
 
 /// Signal proc for [COMSIG_ITEM_OFFER_TAKEN] to continue through with the high-five on take
-/datum/element/high_fiver/proc/on_offer_taken(obj/item/source, mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/datum/element/high_fiver/proc/on_offer_taken(obj/item/source, mob/living/offerer, mob/living/taker)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
 	var/open_hands_taker = 0
diff --git a/code/datums/keybinding/carbon.dm b/code/datums/keybinding/carbon.dm
deleted file mode 100644
index 92f36b06529..00000000000
--- a/code/datums/keybinding/carbon.dm
+++ /dev/null
@@ -1,58 +0,0 @@
-/datum/keybinding/carbon
-	category = CATEGORY_CARBON
-	weight = WEIGHT_MOB
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/can_use(client/user)
-	return iscarbon(user.mob)
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/toggle_throw_mode
-	hotkey_keys = list("R", "Southwest") // END
-	name = "toggle_throw_mode"
-	full_name = "Toggle throw mode"
-	description = "Toggle throwing the current item or not."
-	category = CATEGORY_CARBON
-	keybind_signal = COMSIG_KB_CARBON_TOGGLETHROWMODE_DOWN
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/toggle_throw_mode/down(client/user, turf/target)
-	. = ..()
-	if(.)
-		return
-	var/mob/living/carbon/C = user.mob
-	C.toggle_throw_mode()
-	return TRUE
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/hold_throw_mode
-	hotkey_keys = list("Space")
-	name = "hold_throw_mode"
-	full_name = "Hold throw mode"
-	description = "Hold this to turn on throw mode, and release it to turn off throw mode"
-	category = CATEGORY_CARBON
-	keybind_signal = COMSIG_KB_CARBON_HOLDTHROWMODE_DOWN
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/hold_throw_mode/down(client/user, turf/target)
-	. = ..()
-	if(.)
-		return
-	var/mob/living/carbon/carbon_user = user.mob
-	carbon_user.throw_mode_on(THROW_MODE_HOLD)
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/hold_throw_mode/up(client/user, turf/target)
-	. = ..()
-	if(.)
-		return
-	var/mob/living/carbon/carbon_user = user.mob
-	carbon_user.throw_mode_off(THROW_MODE_HOLD)
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/give
-	hotkey_keys = list("G")
-	name = "Give_Item"
-	full_name = "Give item"
-	description = "Give the item you're currently holding"
-	keybind_signal = COMSIG_KB_CARBON_GIVEITEM_DOWN
-
-/datum/keybinding/carbon/give/down(client/user, turf/target)
-	. = ..()
-	if(.)
-		return
-	var/mob/living/carbon/carbon_user = user.mob
-	carbon_user.give()
-	return TRUE
diff --git a/code/datums/keybinding/living.dm b/code/datums/keybinding/living.dm
index 43369700fc1..d1f2031ea3b 100644
--- a/code/datums/keybinding/living.dm
+++ b/code/datums/keybinding/living.dm
@@ -167,3 +167,65 @@
 	var/mob/living/M = user.mob
 	M.toggle_move_intent()
 	return TRUE
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/toggle_throw_mode
+	hotkey_keys = list("R", "Southwest") // END
+	name = "toggle_throw_mode"
+	full_name = "Toggle throw mode"
+	description = "Toggle throwing the current item or not."
+	keybind_signal = COMSIG_KB_LIVING_TOGGLETHROWMODE_DOWN
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/toggle_throw_mode/down(client/user)
+	. = ..()
+	if(.)
+		return
+	var/mob/living/living_user = user.mob
+	living_user.toggle_throw_mode()
+	return TRUE
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/hold_throw_mode
+	hotkey_keys = list("Space")
+	name = "hold_throw_mode"
+	full_name = "Hold throw mode"
+	description = "Hold this to turn on throw mode, and release it to turn off throw mode"
+	keybind_signal = COMSIG_KB_LIVING_HOLDTHROWMODE_DOWN
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/hold_throw_mode/down(client/user, turf/target)
+	. = ..()
+	if(.)
+		return
+	var/mob/living/living_user = user.mob
+	living_user.throw_mode_on(THROW_MODE_HOLD)
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/hold_throw_mode/up(client/user, turf/target)
+	. = ..()
+	if(.)
+		return
+	var/mob/living/living_user = user.mob
+	living_user.throw_mode_off(THROW_MODE_HOLD)
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/give
+	hotkey_keys = list("G")
+	name = "Give_Item"
+	full_name = "Give item"
+	description = "Give the item you're currently holding"
+	keybind_signal = COMSIG_KB_LIVING_GIVEITEM_DOWN
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/give/can_use(client/user)
+	. = ..()
+	if (!.)
+		return FALSE
+	if(!user.mob)
+		return FALSE
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(user.mob, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS))
+		return FALSE
+	return TRUE
+
+/datum/keybinding/living/give/down(client/user, turf/target)
+	. = ..()
+	if(.)
+		return
+	var/mob/living/living_user = user.mob
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(living_user, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS))
+		return
+	living_user.give()
diff --git a/code/datums/status_effects/neutral.dm b/code/datums/status_effects/neutral.dm
index fb83ade3aa3..673eb71a350 100644
--- a/code/datums/status_effects/neutral.dm
+++ b/code/datums/status_effects/neutral.dm
@@ -200,7 +200,7 @@
 	/// The type of alert given to people when offered, in case you need to override some behavior (like for high-fives)
 	var/give_alert_type = /atom/movable/screen/alert/give
 
-/datum/status_effect/offering/on_creation(mob/living/new_owner, obj/item/offer, give_alert_override, mob/living/carbon/offered)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/on_creation(mob/living/new_owner, obj/item/offer, give_alert_override, mob/living/offered)
 	. = ..()
 	if(!.)
 		return
@@ -211,7 +211,7 @@
 	if(offered && is_taker_elligible(offered))
 		register_candidate(offered)
 	else
-		for(var/mob/living/carbon/possible_taker in orange(1, owner))
+		for(var/mob/living/possible_taker in orange(1, owner))
 			if(!is_taker_elligible(possible_taker))
 				continue
 
@@ -225,14 +225,14 @@
 	RegisterSignals(offered_item, list(COMSIG_QDELETING, COMSIG_ITEM_DROPPED), PROC_REF(dropped_item))
 
 /datum/status_effect/offering/Destroy()
-	for(var/mob/living/carbon/removed_taker as anything in possible_takers)
+	for(var/mob/living/removed_taker as anything in possible_takers)
 		remove_candidate(removed_taker)
 	LAZYCLEARLIST(possible_takers)
 	offered_item = null
 	return ..()
 
-/// Hook up the specified carbon mob to be offered the item in question, give them the alert and signals and all
-/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/register_candidate(mob/living/carbon/possible_candidate)
+/// Hook up the specified living mob to be offered the item in question, give them the alert and signals and all
+/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/register_candidate(mob/living/possible_candidate)
 	var/atom/movable/screen/alert/give/G = possible_candidate.throw_alert("[owner]", give_alert_type)
 	if(!G)
 		return
@@ -240,8 +240,8 @@
 	RegisterSignal(possible_candidate, COMSIG_MOVABLE_MOVED, PROC_REF(check_taker_in_range))
 	G.setup(possible_candidate, src)
 
-/// Remove the alert and signals for the specified carbon mob. Automatically removes the status effect when we lost the last taker
-/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/remove_candidate(mob/living/carbon/removed_candidate)
+/// Remove the alert and signals for the specified living mob. Automatically removes the status effect when we lost the last taker
+/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/remove_candidate(mob/living/removed_candidate)
 	removed_candidate.clear_alert("[owner]")
 	LAZYREMOVE(possible_takers, removed_candidate)
 	UnregisterSignal(removed_candidate, COMSIG_MOVABLE_MOVED)
@@ -249,7 +249,7 @@
 		qdel(src)
 
 /// One of our possible takers moved, see if they left us hanging
-/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/check_taker_in_range(mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/check_taker_in_range(mob/living/taker)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 	if(owner.CanReach(taker) && !IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(taker))
 		return
@@ -258,10 +258,10 @@
 	remove_candidate(taker)
 
 /// The offerer moved, see if anyone is out of range now
-/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/check_owner_in_range(mob/living/carbon/source)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/check_owner_in_range(mob/living/source)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
-	for(var/mob/living/carbon/checking_taker as anything in possible_takers)
+	for(var/mob/living/checking_taker as anything in possible_takers)
 		if(!istype(checking_taker) || !owner.CanReach(checking_taker) || IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(checking_taker))
 			remove_candidate(checking_taker)
 
@@ -276,7 +276,7 @@
  *
  * Returns `TRUE` if the taker is valid as a target for the offering.
  */
-/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/is_taker_elligible(mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/is_taker_elligible(mob/living/taker)
 	return owner.CanReach(taker) && !IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(taker) && additional_taker_check(taker)
 
 /**
@@ -287,7 +287,7 @@
  * Returns `TRUE` if the taker is valid as a target for the offering based on these
  * additional checks.
  */
-/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/additional_taker_check(mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/proc/additional_taker_check(mob/living/taker)
 	return taker.can_hold_items()
 
 /**
@@ -296,7 +296,7 @@
  */
 /datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received
 
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/additional_taker_check(mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/additional_taker_check(mob/living/taker)
 	return taker.usable_hands > 0
 
 /**
@@ -307,23 +307,23 @@
  */
 /datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting
 
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/additional_taker_check(mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/additional_taker_check(mob/living/taker)
 	return taker.body_position == LYING_DOWN
 
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/on_creation(mob/living/new_owner, obj/item/offer, give_alert_override, mob/living/carbon/offered)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/on_creation(mob/living/new_owner, obj/item/offer, give_alert_override, mob/living/offered)
 	. = ..()
 	RegisterSignal(owner, COMSIG_LIVING_SET_BODY_POSITION, PROC_REF(check_owner_standing))
 
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/register_candidate(mob/living/carbon/possible_candidate)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/register_candidate(mob/living/possible_candidate)
 	. = ..()
 	RegisterSignal(possible_candidate, COMSIG_LIVING_SET_BODY_POSITION, PROC_REF(check_candidate_resting))
 
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/remove_candidate(mob/living/carbon/removed_candidate)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/remove_candidate(mob/living/removed_candidate)
 	UnregisterSignal(removed_candidate, COMSIG_LIVING_SET_BODY_POSITION)
 	return ..()
 
 /// Simple signal handler that ensures that, if the owner stops standing, the offer no longer stands either!
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/proc/check_owner_standing(mob/living/carbon/owner)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/proc/check_owner_standing(mob/living/owner)
 	if(src.owner.body_position == STANDING_UP)
 		return
 
@@ -331,7 +331,7 @@
 	qdel(src)
 
 /// Simple signal handler that ensures that, should a candidate now be standing up, the offer won't be standing for them anymore!
-/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/proc/check_candidate_resting(mob/living/carbon/candidate)
+/datum/status_effect/offering/no_item_received/needs_resting/proc/check_candidate_resting(mob/living/candidate)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
 
 	if(candidate.body_position == LYING_DOWN)
diff --git a/code/game/machinery/dna_infuser/organ_sets/rat_organs.dm b/code/game/machinery/dna_infuser/organ_sets/rat_organs.dm
index d9034ac5687..a39b43643e8 100644
--- a/code/game/machinery/dna_infuser/organ_sets/rat_organs.dm
+++ b/code/game/machinery/dna_infuser/organ_sets/rat_organs.dm
@@ -113,11 +113,11 @@
 
 /obj/item/organ/tongue/rat/on_mob_insert(mob/living/carbon/tongue_owner, special, movement_flags)
 	. = ..()
-	RegisterSignal(tongue_owner, COMSIG_CARBON_ITEM_GIVEN, PROC_REF(its_on_the_mouse))
+	RegisterSignal(tongue_owner, COMSIG_LIVING_ITEM_GIVEN, PROC_REF(its_on_the_mouse))
 
 /obj/item/organ/tongue/rat/on_mob_remove(mob/living/carbon/tongue_owner)
 	. = ..()
-	UnregisterSignal(tongue_owner, COMSIG_CARBON_ITEM_GIVEN)
+	UnregisterSignal(tongue_owner, COMSIG_LIVING_ITEM_GIVEN)
 
 /obj/item/organ/tongue/rat/proc/on_item_given(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/taker, obj/item/given)
 	SIGNAL_HANDLER
diff --git a/code/game/objects/items.dm b/code/game/objects/items.dm
index c4be7baa14f..6548001e09c 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/items.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/items.dm
@@ -1482,28 +1482,35 @@
 	stack_trace("Undefined handle_openspace_click() behaviour. Ascertain the openspace_item_click_handler element has been attached to the right item and that its proc override doesn't call parent.")
 
 /**
- * * An interrupt for offering an item to other people, called mainly from [/mob/living/carbon/proc/give], in case you want to run your own offer behavior instead.
+ * * An interrupt for offering an item to other people, called mainly from [/mob/living/proc/give], in case you want to run your own offer behavior instead.
  *
  * * Return TRUE if you want to interrupt the offer.
  *
  * * Arguments:
- * * offerer - The person offering the item.
- * * offered - The person being offered the item.
+ * * offerer - The living mob offering the item.
+ * * offered - The living mob being offered the item.
  */
-/obj/item/proc/on_offered(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/offered)
+/obj/item/proc/on_offered(mob/living/offerer, mob/living/offered)
+	if(!offered) // item has just been offered to anyone around
+		if(!(HAS_TRAIT(offerer, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS)))
+			return TRUE
+	else if(!(HAS_TRAIT(offerer, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS) && HAS_TRAIT(offered, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS)))
+		return TRUE // both must be able to hold items for this to make sense
 	if(SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_ITEM_OFFERING, offerer) & COMPONENT_OFFER_INTERRUPT)
 		return TRUE
 
 /**
- * * An interrupt for someone trying to accept an offered item, called mainly from [/mob/living/carbon/proc/take], in case you want to run your own take behavior instead.
+ * * An interrupt for someone trying to accept an offered item, called mainly from [/mob/living/proc/take], in case you want to run your own take behavior instead.
  *
  * * Return TRUE if you want to interrupt the taking.
  *
  * * Arguments:
- * * offerer - the person offering the item
- * * taker - the person trying to accept the offer
+ * * offerer - the living mob offering the item
+ * * taker - the living mob trying to accept the offer
  */
-/obj/item/proc/on_offer_taken(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/taker)
+/obj/item/proc/on_offer_taken(mob/living/offerer, mob/living/taker)
+	if(!(HAS_TRAIT(offerer, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS) && HAS_TRAIT(taker, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS)))
+		return TRUE // both must be able to hold items for this to make sense
 	if(SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_ITEM_OFFER_TAKEN, offerer, taker) & COMPONENT_OFFER_INTERRUPT)
 		return TRUE
 
diff --git a/code/game/objects/items/hand_items.dm b/code/game/objects/items/hand_items.dm
index 0e9ea7a28c5..1f6e888394c 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/items/hand_items.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/items/hand_items.dm
@@ -341,7 +341,7 @@
 // Successful takes will qdel our hand after
 /obj/item/hand_item/slapper/on_offer_taken(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/taker)
 	. = ..()
-	if(!.)
+	if(.)
 		return
 
 	qdel(src)
@@ -408,7 +408,11 @@
 
 
 /obj/item/hand_item/hand/on_offer_taken(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/taker)
-	. = TRUE
+	. = ..()
+	if(!offerer || !taker)
+		return TRUE // this doesn't make sense unless both are carbons
+	if(.)
+		return
 
 	if(taker.body_position == LYING_DOWN)
 		taker.help_shake_act(offerer)
@@ -518,6 +522,10 @@
 	return TRUE
 
 /obj/item/hand_item/kisser/on_offer_taken(mob/living/carbon/offerer, mob/living/carbon/taker)
+	. = ..()
+	if(.)
+		return
+
 	var/obj/projectile/blown_kiss = new kiss_type(get_turf(offerer))
 	offerer.visible_message("<b>[offerer]</b> gives [taker] \a [blown_kiss][cheek_kiss ? " on the cheek" : ""]!!", span_notice("You give [taker] \a [blown_kiss][cheek_kiss ? " on the cheek" : ""]!"), ignored_mobs = taker)
 	to_chat(taker, span_nicegreen("[offerer] gives you \a [blown_kiss][cheek_kiss ? " on the cheek" : ""]!"))
diff --git a/code/modules/basketball/basketball.dm b/code/modules/basketball/basketball.dm
index 919d26daeee..274a9602546 100644
--- a/code/modules/basketball/basketball.dm
+++ b/code/modules/basketball/basketball.dm
@@ -56,7 +56,7 @@
 	// unlike on_equip, this signal is triggered after the ball is removed from hands
 	// so we can just use is_holding_item_of_type() proc to check for multiple balls
 	if(!wielder.is_holding_item_of_type(/obj/item/toy/basketball))
-		UnregisterSignal(wielder, list(COMSIG_MOVABLE_MOVED, COMSIG_MOB_EMOTED("spin"), COMSIG_LIVING_DISARM_HIT, COMSIG_LIVING_STATUS_KNOCKDOWN, COMSIG_MOB_THROW))
+		UnregisterSignal(wielder, list(COMSIG_MOVABLE_MOVED, COMSIG_MOB_EMOTED("spin"), COMSIG_LIVING_DISARM_HIT, COMSIG_LIVING_STATUS_KNOCKDOWN))
 
 	wielder = null
 
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/basic/farm_animals/gorilla/gorilla.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/basic/farm_animals/gorilla/gorilla.dm
index dd8805fbf8c..6fb3c5ea9af 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/basic/farm_animals/gorilla/gorilla.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/basic/farm_animals/gorilla/gorilla.dm
@@ -57,7 +57,7 @@
 	. = ..()
 	add_traits(list(TRAIT_ADVANCEDTOOLUSER, TRAIT_CAN_STRIP, TRAIT_CHUNKYFINGERS), ROUNDSTART_TRAIT)
 	AddElement(/datum/element/wall_tearer, allow_reinforced = FALSE)
-	AddElement(/datum/element/dextrous)
+	AddElement(/datum/element/dextrous, can_throw = TRUE)
 	AddElement(/datum/element/footstep, FOOTSTEP_MOB_BAREFOOT)
 	AddElement(/datum/element/basic_eating, heal_amt = 10, food_types = gorilla_food)
 	AddComponent(
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/basic/guardian/guardian_types/dextrous.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/basic/guardian/guardian_types/dextrous.dm
index fb6fa276d98..3abafd5be1b 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/basic/guardian/guardian_types/dextrous.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/basic/guardian/guardian_types/dextrous.dm
@@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
 /mob/living/basic/guardian/dextrous/Initialize(mapload, datum/guardian_fluff/theme)
 	. = ..()
 	add_traits(list(TRAIT_ADVANCEDTOOLUSER, TRAIT_CAN_STRIP), ROUNDSTART_TRAIT)
-	AddElement(/datum/element/dextrous, hud_type = hud_type)
+	AddElement(/datum/element/dextrous, hud_type = hud_type, can_throw = TRUE)
 	AddComponent(/datum/component/personal_crafting)
 	AddComponent(/datum/component/basic_inhands)
 
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/carbon.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/carbon.dm
index 5dd394e2439..c4e40c78ad2 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/carbon.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/carbon.dm
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
 
 	GLOB.carbon_list += src
 	ADD_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS, INNATE_TRAIT) // Carbons are assumed to be innately capable of having arms, we check their arms count instead
+	ADD_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS, INNATE_TRAIT) // same here
 	breathing_loop = new(src, _direct = TRUE)
 
 /mob/living/carbon/Destroy()
@@ -39,11 +40,6 @@
 			return ITEM_INTERACT_SUCCESS
 	return .
 
-/mob/living/carbon/click_ctrl_shift(mob/user)
-	if(iscarbon(user))
-		var/mob/living/carbon/carbon_user = user
-		carbon_user.give(src)
-
 /mob/living/carbon/throw_impact(atom/hit_atom, datum/thrownthing/throwingdatum)
 	. = ..()
 	var/hurt = TRUE
@@ -105,123 +101,6 @@
 	if(oof_noise)
 		playsound(src,'sound/items/weapons/punch1.ogg',50,TRUE)
 
-//Throwing stuff
-/mob/living/carbon/proc/toggle_throw_mode()
-	if(stat)
-		return
-	if(throw_mode)
-		throw_mode_off(THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
-	else
-		throw_mode_on(THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
-
-
-/mob/living/carbon/proc/throw_mode_off(method)
-	if(throw_mode > method) //A toggle doesnt affect a hold
-		return
-	throw_mode = THROW_MODE_DISABLED
-	if(hud_used)
-		hud_used.throw_icon.icon_state = "act_throw"
-	SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_LIVING_THROW_MODE_TOGGLE, throw_mode)
-
-
-/mob/living/carbon/proc/throw_mode_on(mode = THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
-	throw_mode = mode
-	if(hud_used)
-		hud_used.throw_icon.icon_state = "act_throw_on"
-	SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_LIVING_THROW_MODE_TOGGLE, throw_mode)
-
-/mob/proc/throw_item(atom/target)
-	SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_MOB_THROW, target)
-	SEND_GLOBAL_SIGNAL(COMSIG_GLOB_CARBON_THROW_THING, src, target)
-	return TRUE
-
-/mob/living/carbon/throw_item(atom/target)
-	. = ..()
-	throw_mode_off(THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
-	if(!target || !isturf(loc))
-		return FALSE
-	if(istype(target, /atom/movable/screen))
-		return FALSE
-	var/atom/movable/thrown_thing
-	var/obj/item/held_item = get_active_held_item()
-	var/verb_text = pick("throw", "toss", "hurl", "chuck", "fling")
-	if(prob(0.5))
-		verb_text = "yeet"
-	var/neckgrab_throw = FALSE // we can't check for if it's a neckgrab throw when totaling up power_throw since we've already stopped pulling them by then, so get it early
-	var/frequency_number = 1 //We assign a default frequency number for the sound of the throw.
-	if(!held_item)
-		if(pulling && isliving(pulling) && grab_state >= GRAB_AGGRESSIVE)
-			var/mob/living/throwable_mob = pulling
-			if(!throwable_mob.buckled)
-				thrown_thing = throwable_mob
-				if(grab_state >= GRAB_NECK)
-					neckgrab_throw = TRUE
-				stop_pulling()
-				if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_PACIFISM) || HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_NO_THROWING))
-					to_chat(src, span_notice("You gently let go of [throwable_mob]."))
-					return FALSE
-	else
-		thrown_thing = held_item.on_thrown(src, target)
-	if(!thrown_thing)
-		return FALSE
-	if(isliving(thrown_thing))
-		var/turf/start_T = get_turf(loc) //Get the start and target tile for the descriptors
-		var/turf/end_T = get_turf(target)
-		if(start_T && end_T)
-			log_combat(src, thrown_thing, "thrown", addition="grab from tile in [AREACOORD(start_T)] towards tile at [AREACOORD(end_T)]")
-	var/power_throw = 0
-	var/extra_throw_range = HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_THROWINGARM) ? 2 : 0
-
-	var/obj/item/organ/cyberimp/chest/spine/potential_spine = get_organ_slot(ORGAN_SLOT_SPINE)
-	if(istype(potential_spine))
-		power_throw += potential_spine.added_throw_speed
-		extra_throw_range += potential_spine.added_throw_range
-
-	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_HULK))
-		power_throw++
-	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_DWARF))
-		power_throw--
-	if(HAS_TRAIT(thrown_thing, TRAIT_DWARF))
-		power_throw++
-	//SKYRAT EDIT ADDITION
-	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_OVERSIZED))
-		power_throw++
-	if(HAS_TRAIT(thrown_thing, TRAIT_OVERSIZED))
-		power_throw--
-	//SKYRAT EDIT END
-	if(neckgrab_throw)
-		power_throw++
-	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_TOSS_GUN_HARD) && isgun(thrown_thing))
-		power_throw++
-	if(isitem(thrown_thing))
-		var/obj/item/thrown_item = thrown_thing
-		frequency_number = 1-(thrown_item.w_class-3)/8 //At normal weight, the frequency is at 1. For tiny, it is 1.25. For huge, it is 0.75.
-		if(thrown_item.throw_verb)
-			verb_text = thrown_item.throw_verb
-	do_attack_animation(target, no_effect = 1)
-	var/sound/throwsound = 'sound/items/weapons/throw.ogg'
-	var/power_throw_text = "."
-	if(power_throw > 0) //If we have anything that boosts our throw power like hulk, we use the rougher heavier variant.
-		throwsound = 'sound/items/weapons/throwhard.ogg'
-		power_throw_text = " really hard!"
-	if(power_throw < 0) //if we have anything that weakens our throw power like dward, we use a slower variant.
-		throwsound = 'sound/items/weapons/throwsoft.ogg'
-		power_throw_text = " flimsily."
-	frequency_number = frequency_number + (rand(-5,5)/100); //Adds a bit of randomness in the frequency to not sound exactly the same.
-	//The volume of the sound takes the minimum between the distance thrown or the max range an item, but no more than 50. Short throws are quieter. A fast throwing speed also makes the noise sharper.
-	playsound(src, throwsound, clamp(8*min(get_dist(loc,target),thrown_thing.throw_range), 10, 50), vary = TRUE, extrarange = -1, frequency = frequency_number)
-	visible_message(span_danger("[src] [verb_text][plural_s(verb_text)] [thrown_thing][power_throw_text]"), \
-					span_danger("You [verb_text] [thrown_thing][power_throw_text]"))
-	log_message("has thrown [thrown_thing] [power_throw_text]", LOG_ATTACK)
-
-	var/drift_force = max(0.5 NEWTONS, 1 NEWTONS + power_throw)
-	if (isitem(thrown_thing))
-		var/obj/item/thrown_item = thrown_thing
-		drift_force *= WEIGHT_TO_NEWTONS(thrown_item.w_class)
-
-	newtonian_move(get_angle(target, src), drift_force = drift_force)
-	thrown_thing.safe_throw_at(target, thrown_thing.throw_range + extra_throw_range, max(1,thrown_thing.throw_speed + power_throw), src, null, null, null, move_force)
-
 /mob/living/carbon/proc/canBeHandcuffed()
 	return FALSE
 
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/inventory.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/inventory.dm
index 546c7fa35d6..f21aad08c28 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/inventory.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/inventory.dm
@@ -417,95 +417,6 @@
 	var/index = get_held_index_of_item(I)
 	return index && hand_bodyparts[index]
 
-/**
- * Proc called when offering an item to another player
- *
- * This handles creating an alert and adding an overlay to it
- */
-/mob/living/carbon/proc/give(mob/living/carbon/offered)
-	if(has_status_effect(/datum/status_effect/offering))
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're already offering something!"))
-		return
-
-	if(IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(src))
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're unable to offer anything in your current state!"))
-		return
-
-	var/obj/item/offered_item = get_active_held_item()
-	// if it's an abstract item, should consider it to be non-existent (unless it's a HAND_ITEM, which means it's an obj/item that is just a representation of our hand)
-	if(!offered_item || ((offered_item.item_flags & ABSTRACT) && !(offered_item.item_flags & HAND_ITEM)))
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're not holding anything to offer!"))
-		return
-
-	if(offered)
-		if(offered == src)
-			if(!swap_hand(get_inactive_hand_index())) //have to swap hands first to take something
-				to_chat(src, span_warning("You try to take [offered_item] from yourself, but fail."))
-				return
-			if(!put_in_active_hand(offered_item))
-				to_chat(src, span_warning("You try to take [offered_item] from yourself, but fail."))
-				return
-			else
-				to_chat(src, span_notice("You take [offered_item] from yourself."))
-				return
-
-		if(IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(offered))
-			to_chat(src, span_warning("[offered.p_Theyre()] unable to take anything in [offered.p_their()] current state!"))
-			return
-
-		if(!CanReach(offered))
-			to_chat(src, span_warning("You have to be beside [offered.p_them()]!"))
-			return
-	else
-		if(!(locate(/mob/living/carbon) in orange(1, src)))
-			to_chat(src, span_warning("There's nobody beside you to take it!"))
-			return
-
-	if(offered_item.on_offered(src)) // see if the item interrupts with its own behavior
-		return
-
-	balloon_alert_to_viewers("offers something")
-	visible_message(span_notice("[src] is offering [offered ? "[offered] " : ""][offered_item]."), \
-					span_notice("You offer [offered ? "[offered] " : ""][offered_item]."), null, 2)
-
-	apply_status_effect(/datum/status_effect/offering, offered_item, null, offered)
-
-/**
- * Proc called when the player clicks the give alert
- *
- * Handles checking if the player taking the item has open slots and is in range of the offerer
- * Also deals with the actual transferring of the item to the players hands
- * Arguments:
- * * offerer - The person giving the original item
- * * I - The item being given by the offerer
- */
-/mob/living/carbon/proc/take(mob/living/carbon/offerer, obj/item/I)
-	clear_alert("[offerer]")
-	if(IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(src))
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're unable to take anything in your current state!"))
-		return
-	if(get_dist(src, offerer) > 1)
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("[offerer] is out of range!"))
-		return
-	if(!I || offerer.get_active_held_item() != I)
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("[offerer] is no longer holding the item they were offering!"))
-		return
-	if(!get_empty_held_indexes())
-		to_chat(src, span_warning("You have no empty hands!"))
-		return
-
-	if(I.on_offer_taken(offerer, src)) // see if the item has special behavior for being accepted
-		return
-
-	if(!offerer.temporarilyRemoveItemFromInventory(I))
-		visible_message(span_notice("[offerer] tries to hand over [I] but it's stuck to them...."))
-		return
-
-	visible_message(span_notice("[src] takes [I] from [offerer]."), \
-					span_notice("You take [I] from [offerer]."))
-	I.do_pickup_animation(src, offerer)
-	put_in_hands(I)
-
 ///Returns a list of all body_zones covered by clothing
 /mob/living/carbon/proc/get_covered_body_zones()
 	RETURN_TYPE(/list)
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/living_item_handling.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/living_item_handling.dm
new file mode 100644
index 00000000000..60d683887b1
--- /dev/null
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/living_item_handling.dm
@@ -0,0 +1,227 @@
+// Throwing stuff
+/mob/living/proc/toggle_throw_mode()
+	if(stat)
+		return
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS))
+		return
+	if(throw_mode)
+		throw_mode_off(THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
+	else
+		throw_mode_on(THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
+
+
+/mob/living/proc/throw_mode_off(method)
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS))
+		return
+	if(throw_mode > method) //A toggle doesnt affect a hold
+		return
+	throw_mode = THROW_MODE_DISABLED
+	if(hud_used)
+		hud_used.throw_icon.icon_state = "act_throw"
+	SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_LIVING_THROW_MODE_TOGGLE, throw_mode)
+
+
+/mob/living/proc/throw_mode_on(mode = THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS))
+		return
+	throw_mode = mode
+	if(hud_used)
+		hud_used.throw_icon.icon_state = "act_throw_on"
+	SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_LIVING_THROW_MODE_TOGGLE, throw_mode)
+
+/mob/proc/throw_item(atom/target)
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS))
+		return FALSE
+	SEND_SIGNAL(src, COMSIG_MOB_THROW, target)
+	return TRUE
+
+/mob/living/throw_item(atom/target)
+	. = ..()
+	throw_mode_off(THROW_MODE_TOGGLE)
+	if(!HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_THROW_ITEMS))
+		stack_trace("[src] tried to throw [target], but they shouldn't be able to throw things")
+		return FALSE
+	if(!target || !isturf(loc))
+		return FALSE
+	if(istype(target, /atom/movable/screen))
+		return FALSE
+	var/atom/movable/thrown_thing
+	var/obj/item/held_item = get_active_held_item()
+	var/verb_text = pick("throw", "toss", "hurl", "chuck", "fling")
+	if(prob(0.5))
+		verb_text = "yeet"
+	var/neckgrab_throw = FALSE // we can't check for if it's a neckgrab throw when totaling up power_throw since we've already stopped pulling them by then, so get it early
+	var/frequency_number = 1 //We assign a default frequency number for the sound of the throw.
+	if(!held_item)
+		if(pulling && isliving(pulling) && grab_state >= GRAB_AGGRESSIVE)
+			var/mob/living/throwable_mob = pulling
+			if(!throwable_mob.buckled)
+				thrown_thing = throwable_mob
+				if(grab_state >= GRAB_NECK)
+					neckgrab_throw = TRUE
+				stop_pulling()
+				if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_PACIFISM) || HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_NO_THROWING))
+					to_chat(src, span_notice("You gently let go of [throwable_mob]."))
+					return FALSE
+	else
+		thrown_thing = held_item.on_thrown(src, target)
+	if(!thrown_thing)
+		return FALSE
+	if(isliving(thrown_thing))
+		var/turf/start_T = get_turf(loc) //Get the start and target tile for the descriptors
+		var/turf/end_T = get_turf(target)
+		if(start_T && end_T)
+			log_combat(src, thrown_thing, "thrown", addition="grab from tile in [AREACOORD(start_T)] towards tile at [AREACOORD(end_T)]")
+	var/power_throw = 0
+	var/extra_throw_range = HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_THROWINGARM) ? 2 : 0
+
+	var/obj/item/organ/cyberimp/chest/spine/potential_spine = get_organ_slot(ORGAN_SLOT_SPINE)
+	if(istype(potential_spine))
+		power_throw += potential_spine.added_throw_speed
+		extra_throw_range += potential_spine.added_throw_range
+
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_HULK))
+		power_throw++
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_DWARF))
+		power_throw--
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(thrown_thing, TRAIT_DWARF))
+		power_throw++
+	//SKYRAT EDIT ADDITION
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_OVERSIZED))
+		power_throw++
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(thrown_thing, TRAIT_OVERSIZED))
+		power_throw--
+	//SKYRAT EDIT END
+	if(neckgrab_throw)
+		power_throw++
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_TOSS_GUN_HARD) && isgun(thrown_thing))
+		power_throw++
+	if(isitem(thrown_thing))
+		var/obj/item/thrown_item = thrown_thing
+		frequency_number = 1-(thrown_item.w_class-3)/8 //At normal weight, the frequency is at 1. For tiny, it is 1.25. For huge, it is 0.75.
+		if(thrown_item.throw_verb)
+			verb_text = thrown_item.throw_verb
+	do_attack_animation(target, no_effect = 1)
+	var/sound/throwsound = 'sound/items/weapons/throw.ogg'
+	var/power_throw_text = "."
+	if(power_throw > 0) //If we have anything that boosts our throw power like hulk, we use the rougher heavier variant.
+		throwsound = 'sound/items/weapons/throwhard.ogg'
+		power_throw_text = " really hard!"
+	if(power_throw < 0) //if we have anything that weakens our throw power like dward, we use a slower variant.
+		throwsound = 'sound/items/weapons/throwsoft.ogg'
+		power_throw_text = " flimsily."
+	frequency_number = frequency_number + (rand(-5,5)/100); //Adds a bit of randomness in the frequency to not sound exactly the same.
+	//The volume of the sound takes the minimum between the distance thrown or the max range an item, but no more than 50. Short throws are quieter. A fast throwing speed also makes the noise sharper.
+	playsound(src, throwsound, clamp(8*min(get_dist(loc,target),thrown_thing.throw_range), 10, 50), vary = TRUE, extrarange = -1, frequency = frequency_number)
+	visible_message(span_danger("[src] [verb_text][plural_s(verb_text)] [thrown_thing][power_throw_text]"), \
+					span_danger("You [verb_text] [thrown_thing][power_throw_text]"))
+	log_message("has thrown [thrown_thing] [power_throw_text]", LOG_ATTACK)
+
+	var/drift_force = max(0.5 NEWTONS, 1 NEWTONS + power_throw)
+	if (isitem(thrown_thing))
+		var/obj/item/thrown_item = thrown_thing
+		drift_force *= WEIGHT_TO_NEWTONS(thrown_item.w_class)
+
+	newtonian_move(get_angle(target, src), drift_force = drift_force)
+	thrown_thing.safe_throw_at(target, thrown_thing.throw_range + extra_throw_range, max(1,thrown_thing.throw_speed + power_throw), src, null, null, null, move_force)
+
+// Giving stuff
+/**
+ * Proc called when offering an item to another player
+ *
+ * This handles creating an alert and adding an overlay to it
+ * Arguments:
+ * * offered - The player being offered the item (optional, if null the offer is to everyone around)
+ */
+/mob/living/proc/give(mob/living/offered)
+	if(has_status_effect(/datum/status_effect/offering))
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're already offering something!"))
+		return
+
+	if(IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(src))
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're unable to offer anything in your current state!"))
+		return
+
+	var/obj/item/offered_item = get_active_held_item()
+	// if it's an abstract item, should consider it to be non-existent (unless it's a HAND_ITEM, which means it's an obj/item that is just a representation of our hand)
+	if(!offered_item || ((offered_item.item_flags & ABSTRACT) && !(offered_item.item_flags & HAND_ITEM)))
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're not holding anything to offer!"))
+		return
+
+	if(offered)
+		if(offered == src)
+			if(!swap_hand(get_inactive_hand_index())) //have to swap hands first to take something
+				to_chat(src, span_warning("You try to take [offered_item] from yourself, but fail."))
+				return
+			if(!put_in_active_hand(offered_item))
+				to_chat(src, span_warning("You try to take [offered_item] from yourself, but fail."))
+				return
+			else
+				to_chat(src, span_notice("You take [offered_item] from yourself."))
+				return
+
+		if(IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(offered))
+			to_chat(src, span_warning("[offered.p_Theyre()] unable to take anything in [offered.p_their()] current state!"))
+			return
+
+		if(!CanReach(offered))
+			to_chat(src, span_warning("You have to be beside [offered.p_them()]!"))
+			return
+
+		if(!HAS_TRAIT(offered, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS))
+			to_chat(src, span_warning("[offered.p_They()] can't hold anything you offer!"))
+			return
+	else if(!(locate(/mob/living) in orange(1, src)))
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("There's nobody beside you to take it!"))
+		return
+
+	if(offered_item.on_offered(src)) // see if the item interrupts with its own behavior
+		return
+
+	balloon_alert_to_viewers("offers something")
+	visible_message(span_notice("[src] is offering [offered ? "[offered] " : ""][offered_item]."), \
+					span_notice("You offer [offered ? "[offered] " : ""][offered_item]."), null, 2)
+
+	apply_status_effect(/datum/status_effect/offering, offered_item, null, offered)
+
+/**
+ * Proc called when the player clicks the give alert
+ *
+ * Handles checking if the player taking the item has open slots and is in range of the offerer
+ * Also deals with the actual transferring of the item to the players hands
+ * Arguments:
+ * * offerer - The living mob giving the original item
+ * * offered_item - The item being given by the offerer
+ */
+/mob/living/proc/take(mob/living/offerer, obj/item/offered_item)
+	clear_alert("[offerer]")
+	if(IS_DEAD_OR_INCAP(src))
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("You're unable to take anything in your current state!"))
+		return
+	if(get_dist(src, offerer) > 1)
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("[offerer] is out of range!"))
+		return
+	if(!offered_item || offerer.get_active_held_item() != offered_item)
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("[offerer] is no longer holding the item they were offering!"))
+		return
+	if(!get_empty_held_indexes())
+		to_chat(src, span_warning("You have no empty hands!"))
+		return
+
+	if(offered_item.on_offer_taken(offerer, src)) // see if the item has special behavior for being accepted
+		return
+
+	if(!offerer.temporarilyRemoveItemFromInventory(offered_item))
+		visible_message(span_notice("[offerer] tries to hand over [offered_item] but it's stuck to them...."))
+		return
+
+	visible_message(span_notice("[src] takes [offered_item] from [offerer]."), \
+					span_notice("You take [offered_item] from [offerer]."))
+	offered_item.do_pickup_animation(src, offerer)
+	put_in_hands(offered_item)
+
+
+/mob/living/click_ctrl_shift(mob/user)
+	if(HAS_TRAIT(src, TRAIT_CAN_HOLD_ITEMS))
+		var/mob/living/living_user = user
+		living_user.give(src)
diff --git a/tgstation.dme b/tgstation.dme
index 951b52b3531..67afb96f3a6 100644
--- a/tgstation.dme
+++ b/tgstation.dme
@@ -1835,7 +1835,6 @@
 #include "code\datums\keybinding\_keybindings.dm"
 #include "code\datums\keybinding\admin.dm"
 #include "code\datums\keybinding\artificial_intelligence.dm"
-#include "code\datums\keybinding\carbon.dm"
 #include "code\datums\keybinding\client.dm"
 #include "code\datums\keybinding\communication.dm"
 #include "code\datums\keybinding\emote.dm"
@@ -5083,6 +5082,7 @@
 #include "code\modules\mob\living\living_defense.dm"
 #include "code\modules\mob\living\living_defines.dm"
 #include "code\modules\mob\living\living_fov.dm"
+#include "code\modules\mob\living\living_item_handling.dm"
 #include "code\modules\mob\living\living_movement.dm"
 #include "code\modules\mob\living\living_say.dm"
 #include "code\modules\mob\living\living_update_icons.dm"