diff --git a/code/game/gamemodes/cult/ritual.dm b/code/game/gamemodes/cult/ritual.dm
index 262c90379c3..4e66a3d1ecc 100644
--- a/code/game/gamemodes/cult/ritual.dm
+++ b/code/game/gamemodes/cult/ritual.dm
@@ -63,9 +63,9 @@ var/engwords = list("travel", "blood", "join", "hell", "destroy", "technology",
 	usr.say("O bidai nabora se[pick("'","`")]sma!")
 	sleep(10)
 	usr.say("[input]")
-	for(var/datum/mind/H in ticker.mode.cult)
-		if (H.current)
-			H.current << "<span class='userdanger'>[input]</span>"
+	for(var/mob/M in mob_list)
+		if((M.mind && (M.mind in ticker.mode.cult)) || (M in dead_mob_list))
+			M << "<span class='userdanger'>[input]</span>"
 	return
 	#undef CHECK_STATUS
 
diff --git a/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm b/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm
index 2b16cdcc366..fb07c3c966c 100644
--- a/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm
+++ b/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm
@@ -574,9 +574,9 @@ var/list/sacrificed = list()
 		usr.say("[input]")
 	else
 		usr.whisper("[input]")
-	for(var/datum/mind/H in ticker.mode.cult)
-		if (H.current)
-			H.current << "<span class='userdanger'>[input]</span>"
+	for(var/mob/M in mob_list)
+		if((M.mind && (M.mind in ticker.mode.cult)) || (M in dead_mob_list))
+			M << "<span class='userdanger'>[input]</span>"
 	return 1
 
 /////////////////////////////////////////FIFTEENTH RUNE
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/alien/say.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/alien/say.dm
index a65299adfc1..7c95bf37b74 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/alien/say.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/alien/say.dm
@@ -11,7 +11,7 @@
 	var/message_a = say_quote(message)
 	var/rendered = "<i><span class='game say'>Hivemind, <span class='name'>[name]</span> <span class='message'>[message_a]</span></span></i>"
 	for(var/mob/S in player_list)
-		if((!S.stat && (S.hivecheck())) || (S.stat == DEAD && !istype(S, /mob/new_player)))
+		if((!S.stat && (S.hivecheck())) || (S in dead_mob_list))
 			S << rendered
 
 /mob/living/carbon/alien/handle_inherent_channels(message, message_mode)
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/say.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/say.dm
index 4c4ee69543c..3a08fa464f5 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/say.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/say.dm
@@ -222,14 +222,14 @@ var/list/department_radio_keys = list(
 				var/msg = "<i><font color=#800080><b>[mind.changeling.changelingID]:</b> [message]</font></i>"
 				log_say("[mind.changeling.changelingID]/[src.key] : [message]")
 				for(var/mob/M in mob_list)
-					if(M.stat == DEAD && !istype(M, /mob/new_player))
+					if(M in dead_mob_list)
 						M << msg
 					else
 						switch(M.lingcheck())
 							if(2)
 								M << msg
 							if(1)
-								if(prob(30))
+								if(prob(40))
 									M << "<i><font color=#800080>We can faintly sense another of our kind trying to communicate through the hivemind...</font></i>"
 				return 1
 			if(1)
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/silicon/say.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/silicon/say.dm
index 662c92dabd1..9dd1325113a 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/silicon/say.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/silicon/say.dm
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
 	var/message_a = say_quote(message)
 	var/rendered = "<i><span class='game say'>Robotic Talk, <span class='name'>[name]</span> <span class='message'>[message_a]</span></span></i>"
 	for(var/mob/M in player_list)
-		if(M.binarycheck() || (M.stat == DEAD && (M.client.prefs.toggles & CHAT_GHOSTEARS) && !istype(M, /mob/new_player)))
+		if(M.binarycheck() || (M in dead_mob_list))
 			if(istype(M, /mob/living/silicon/ai))
 				var/renderedAI = "<i><span class='game say'>Robotic Talk, <a href='byond://?src=\ref[M];track2=\ref[M];track=\ref[src]'><span class='name'>[name] ([desig])</span></a> <span class='message'>[message_a]</span></span></i>"
 				M << renderedAI
@@ -51,7 +51,7 @@
 	. = ..()
 	if(.)
 		return .
-	
+
 	if(message_mode == MODE_BINARY)
 		if(binarycheck())
 			robot_talk(message)