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Skyrat gun removal (#3697)
## About The Pull Request HackMD: https://hackmd.io/@Ssalty/r1wjAgSxll Ammo removals: IHDF Rubber (non-.38, non-shotgun, nukie ones stay since it'd require overrides. They were never purchasable to begin with.) Stardust Magnum Express .460 Rowland .457 Government MCR magazines .40 Sol Hornet's nest Gun removals: MCR's .457 revolver M4A5 .460 Rowland revolver CCK GP-7 R10 revolver Guns made inaccessible: NRI guns (including derringer, bobr, plasmas, Miecz) Sol35 (Tarkon, sol ERT, gateway, adminspawn) Sol40 (Tarkon, sol ERT, gateway, adminspawn) Trappiste caliber (wespe, some already adminspawn weapons) Turret adjustments: Twin Fang - 4.6x30mm, 2 Second burst delay (40 dmg every 2 seconds vs 30 dmg every 1.5 seconds (old)) Stinger - 4.6x30mm instead of .35, matching damage Colonist - .45 added instead of sol40, matching damage Hoplite - Same as above Armoury: Armoury spawned MCRs replaced with laser guns and energy guns SMG's and rifles with WT If there would be a case with two separate spawns of a WT, the other is gone. Breaching shell boxes do not spawn in the armoury (they were capable of 1 shotting a dark mauler I wish I was kidding) Lathe: 9mm stendo's, AP, HP, INC magazines not availible for print - the 9mm murphy magazine is. It fits in 9mm firing turrets and the murphy. ## Why It's Good For The Game Give me like a couple days and I'll fill this out. I doubt anyone who is already pro-skyrat-gun will change their mind but it's good to rationalize the decision regardless. Find this out as in lay it out on paper. EDIT 1: Adding the first part # Foreword This PR is a *draft*. That means a lot of things are subject to change, a lot of things can be disorganized and a lot of things will be done unoptimally. Going forwards, do keep in mind, the decision-making process behind "remove entirely" and "virtually remove" will not be dependant on us going forwards, as the decision on this matter requires maintainer input more than any other. Next, the delay. I simply am not a machine, neither are other people onboard this project. With different timezones, it was important to find what isn't working so I can relay it to people in working hours. Without further ado, ## The case of the ammo types and workbench The ammunitions workbench is a machine that provides ammunition into clips, refilling them. The ammunition workbench is also the source of a multitude of alternate ammunition types. It has with itself brought several issues that at least would warrant a rework or heavy adjustments: 1. Contraband ammunitions. There is no real reason that the entire security department, or even a single crewmember should be accessing phasic weapons in the form of printable ammotypes. The argument of "the pipegun having it" doesn't do it favours, as the way you get it is an 8% chance on crafting a junk round for a bulky gun and the only way to find out if you actually have it is checking each shell individually with a bandolier. 2. Complimentary with the removals. Most use cases for this machine are refilling the magazines you can order or get alongside your weapons. This collides with the protolathe, which sources most of our upstream-based ammunition instead. With the skyrat weapons gone, this machine becomes redundant. You may claim that it's still useful in saving on materials, where you would be right! However is it worth to have and maintain an entirely separate structure, with it's own mechanics, map placements, etc. to get a benefit equal to 1.6x more bang for the buck? At the end of the day, splitting ways of getting ammo across a single room for something so miniscule compared to the bloat it adds is pointless. # The weapons, why should they go, one by one. ### RomTech Flechette rifles Compared to a standard laser gun, which is in all means our baseline of ranged damage in ss13 - being the default armoury weapon, the default laser for turrets and default laser for mobs. Better yet, let's compare it to that and the default ballistic option that we have from TG. What turns out, is that not only is the romtech carbine faster at killing than the laser, but also rivals the WT with a split second of difference in ttk in the favour of the romtech. Let's assume it's human error and the WT is better TTK wise, just as an experiment. Clearly, there must be a tradeoff, somewhere, right? One that balances them all out to be equal weapons in the grand scale of things, contemporaries! Well, no, not really. Not even close. The carbine can be folded to fit in bags, that's one thing. The carbine has more ammo, that's another thing. Bursts are harder to dodge than series shots since they cover more perpendicular ground when attempting to dodge projectiles, as is staple for ss13 combat. Burst weapons are advantageous in applying more damage quicker, as you can see on the videos - and initial damage, an alpha strike, applies movement slowdown, ensuring future projectiles connect easier and the target cannot run. It might be a coincidence that the only /tg/ derived weapons that fire burst are adminspawn ERT or the Nukie weapons. But it doesn't end here, no, the RomTech's ammunition alone would warrant a complete overhaul if not a removal. **steel ball** <p> Takes 9 shots to stamcrit, deals mixed damage - further increasing the amount of slowdown applied, and not only is it MUCH faster at stamcritting than a disabler is, it also leaves the target with 70 damage. Over half their healthbar. Severely overtuned with little counterplay availible, alpha strike monster that is better at disabling than disablers and better at stopping people dead in their tracks than rifles, and if you look at our anti-stun, we have less than ever on antagonists with Adrenal implants gone, Adreanaline Glands reworked, etc, etc... </p> **Penetrator** NT's answer to armour! The penetrator has 60 AP and otherwise the same damage as the AP WT rifle. Meaning it's a straight upgrade. Meaning this weapon invalidates it's predecessor whilst being orderable roundstart, and not only that, but it can fully ignore elite modsuits on nukeops. Not every mechanic has to have a counter, there's no direct counter to someone healing after a fight, there is no direct counter to having multiple shots, and there shouldn't be a full nullification of armour for such a low cost. There shouldn't be one for a crew that can mass produce these, ever. **Magnesium** Arguably fine, 12 firestacks per shot is still quite insane for a lower chance of friendly fire compared to original incediary hot turfs, **Ripper** Steel ball, but even worse. They don't embed a single time, ***this embeds every time***. It takes several seconds to take out. Actually, let's compare this gun's bullets to ninja stars. - 2 times the embed chance at 200 vs 100 - 8 times the jostle chance at 80 vs 10 - Comparable fall chance, at 1 vs 0 - More pain stam pct, at 0.9 vs 0.8, meaning more stamina damage - More pain chance, at 70 vs 15 - Less pain modifier, at 2 vs 5 - Takes longer to take out, 5 seconds vs 3 - Jostling pain is the same ### One problem. There's three of those fired per burst, cannot be caught either. And the armour pen is the same. in conclusion, every aspect of this gun is unhealthy for the game, from it's gimmick, to it's execution, to it's stats, to it's ammo, to it's consistency, to it's firing mode, to it being able to be currently worn on sec belts along disablers - up to 4, if I remember correct. No reworks. It has to go. ## Proof Of Testing <details> <summary>Screenshots/Videos</summary> </details> ## Changelog 🆑 del: Removed breaching slugs from crew (not to be confused with frangible. These ones 1 shot mechs) del: Removed MCR, .457 revolver, .460 Rowland revolver, GP-7, R10 revolver, M4A5, and their associated ammo types. del: Removed ammunition types: IHDF, rubber variants excluding .38/shotgun/nukie, stardust, magnum, express, hornet's nest del: Made most NRI guns (Miecz, plasma pistol, plasma thrower, bobr, derringer) and Sol 35/40 (Tarkon, ERT, gateway, adminspawn) inaccessible to crew, kept for ERT/Gateway/Flavour/Admin reasons balance: Turrets which use a removed calibre have been adjusted into either that of the WT's, Ceres (still printable) or 9mm. balance: WT's replace missing sindanos across armouries, laser guns and eguns replace the missing MCR's. /🆑 --------- Co-authored-by: Artur Lang <24881678+Arturlang@users.noreply.github.com> |
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Armadyne Antitrust Act 2563 :: Disintegrates armadyne as a concept and replaces basically everything related (#23424)
* oh yeah oh woag * maybe we can make uncommon into that * gunnenshooter * hard work work * just now realised i forgot inhands * inhands and worn * soundsmith tf2 * does the rifles * puts some of the pistol suppressor images in * awawawa * shotgun override apparently * pistola * grendae launcher * dont forget the evil one too * yeah lets fix that * oops * now lets see what kind of errors compiling gives us * should hopefully be all the compile errors * i understand morbius now * surely it will work now * fixes shrapnel grenades runtiming * also fixed grenade rangefinding * how'd I mess thta up * fixes various issues * granata!!! * haha surely this will gow ell * should fix the grendades for real * opening this pr then dropping dead * uhhh fixes some stuff i think? * armory stuff * random mapping things pt 2 * blehh :3 * fixes it forever and ever * whar?? * turns out that needs a tweak * curious * that'll work 4 sure now * fixes vr * come on over wont you sway with me * mhm yup * should hopefully be all that's it? * missing icons * makes the rifle more expensive * makes the smg a little less awful feeling * dollar store suppressors, just a week away * mmsmrmmrsgg * lets the shotguns actually be sawn off * the propaganda * hey thats important * sprite error (comical) * gives the casings custom materials for printing * i love code ordering * 'lets just be safe' ifies the weight classes of mags and ammo boxes * reworks the sol defense selection a bit * Update modular_skyrat/modules/ammo_workbench/code/design_disks.dm Co-authored-by: GoldenAlpharex <58045821+GoldenAlpharex@users.noreply.github.com> * act three * defines * undefine * restores the clothing * some stuff part 3 * fixes the outfit guns not existing * adjusts firerates and grenade launcher sprites * fixes .35 sol revolvers?? * slightly un-nerfs the rifle firing rates * makes the revolver jus tuse the normal sound * makes the pistol case the right path * its a machinegun! * slight little tiny tweaks * british weather service * puts the blueshield gun box in their locker * makes rifle less lethals a bit more normal * slightly changes the smg burst and firerate * the pepperball had raygun * pepperball caliber * forgot to push the include * i love testmerges * revolver sillies * makes the kiboko's examine_more not just the rifle's * smallens the eland and enlargens the cost of the kiboko * lets change the machinegun a bit too why not * gfl larp (real) * fixes modular armory templates * lets cases be ordered dont worry about the other stuff * makes the takbok say its from the right company * makes sawn off shotgun suppressors visibile * those aren't used at all * tweaks some of the rifle sprites * shortens the shotgun a bit * puts the pixel shifting out of initialize to make certain things work b * granata!!!1!!! * large number of weapon and ammo tweaks * windup autofire seems broken somehow? * fixes the inhands * outfit sanity * .40 armor piercing ammo box name correction * removes var that doesnt exist anymore * .40 armor piercing rework --------- Co-authored-by: GoldenAlpharex <58045821+GoldenAlpharex@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: GoldenAlpharex <jerego1234@hotmail.com> |
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OrionTheFoxandGitHub
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CentCom/"Allies" Spritefile Cleanup (#14188)
* redundant(and ugly) item * INITIAL * 4-dir objects are BAD * armadyne trenchcoat * 1dir obj * bnghbgnbhg * meh * hh * Update modular_skyrat/modules/sec_haul/code/peacekeeper/armadyne_clothing.dm |
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ErdinyoBarbozaandGitHub
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[MODULAR] Ballistic Skyrat: Part 1 | Un-Goofsec's the hardlight guns, Defines 9x19mm Peacekeeper as its own caliber and various balance and qol changes (#13369)
* 45to10mmauto * Update mags.dmi * 9x19mm * ungoobp1 * p2 * mags * finale * Update tgstation.dme * oh * opfor |
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[MIRROR] [Ready] MODsuits [MDB IGNORE] (#10244)
* [Ready] MODsuits * we dont need to add these people as codeowners, goodness gracious * have to remove this because upstream * part 1 of these fixes * EEEE * Update peacekeeper_clothing.dm * E * E * Auto stash before merge of "upstream-merge-59109" and "origin/upstream-merge-59109" * E * Update expeditionary_trooper.dm * more removal * nice * modsuti modstui modusuti * fixes * E * ITS MODsuit not HARDSUIT * more hardsuit references * MODSUIT NOT HARSUITEDSA * Maps * More ,map * oop * e * oo aa * 0 * ting tang * Update modsuit_tailsprites.dm * hi fikou * bs tech update Co-authored-by: Fikou <23585223+Fikou@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: jjpark-kb <55967837+jjpark-kb@users.noreply.github.com> Co-authored-by: Gandalf <jzo123@hotmail.com> Co-authored-by: Tom <8881105+tf-4@users.noreply.github.com> |
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Renames and cleans up additionalert module (#9709)
* Renames and cleans up additionalert module * hoodie * Update modular_skyrat/modules/modular_ert/code/pizza/pizza_outfit.dm * fix dme |