diff --git a/code/modules/persistence/persistence.dm b/code/modules/persistence/persistence.dm
new file mode 100644
index 0000000000..050348378b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/code/modules/persistence/persistence.dm
@@ -0,0 +1,90 @@
+/*
+* Returns a byond list that can be passed to the "deserialize" proc
+* to bring a new instance of this atom to its original state
+*
+* If we want to store this info, we can pass it to `json_encode` or some other
+* interface that suits our fancy, to make it into an easily-handled string
+*/
+/datum/proc/serialize()
+	var/data = list("type" = "[type]")
+	return data
+
+/*
+* This is given the byond list from above, to bring this atom to the state
+* described in the list.
+* This will be called after `New` but before `initialize`, so linking and stuff
+* would probably be handled in `initialize`
+*
+* Also, this should only be called by `list_to_object` in persistence.dm - at least
+* with current plans - that way it can actually initialize the type from the list
+*/
+/datum/proc/deserialize(var/list/data)
+	return
+
+/atom
+	// This var isn't actually used for anything, but is present so that
+	// DM's map reader doesn't forfeit on reading a JSON-serialized map
+	var/map_json_data
+
+// This is so specific atoms can override these, and ignore certain ones
+/atom/proc/vars_to_save()
+ 	return list("color","dir","icon","icon_state","name","pixel_x","pixel_y")
+
+/atom/proc/map_important_vars()
+	// A list of important things to save in the map editor
+ 	return list("color","dir","icon","icon_state","layer","name","pixel_x","pixel_y")
+
+/area/map_important_vars()
+	// Keep the area default icons, to keep things nice and legible
+	return list("name")
+
+// No need to save any state of an area by default
+/area/vars_to_save()
+	return list("name")
+
+/atom/serialize()
+	var/list/data = ..()
+	for(var/thing in vars_to_save())
+		if(vars[thing] != initial(vars[thing]))
+			data[thing] = vars[thing]
+	return data
+
+
+/atom/deserialize(var/list/data)
+	for(var/thing in vars_to_save())
+		if(thing in data)
+			vars[thing] = data[thing]
+	..()
+
+
+/*
+Whoops, forgot to put documentation here.
+What this does, is take a JSON string produced by running
+BYOND's native `json_encode` on a list from `serialize` above, and
+turns that string into a new instance of that object.
+
+You can also easily get an instance of this string by calling "Serialize Marked Datum"
+in the "Debug" tab.
+
+If you're clever, you can do neat things with SDQL and this, though be careful -
+some objects, like humans, are dependent that certain extra things are defined
+in their list
+*/
+/proc/object_to_json(var/atom/movable/thing)
+	return json_encode(thing.serialize())
+
+/proc/json_to_object(var/json_data, var/loc)
+	return list_to_object(json_decode(json_data), loc)
+
+/proc/list_to_object(var/list/data, var/loc)
+	if(!islist(data))
+		throw EXCEPTION("You didn't give me a list, bucko")
+	if(!("type" in data))
+		throw EXCEPTION("No 'type' field in the data")
+	var/path = text2path(data["type"])
+	if(!path)
+		throw EXCEPTION("Path not found: [path]")
+
+	var/atom/movable/thing = new path(loc)
+	thing.deserialize(data)
+	return thing
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_dat_vr.dm b/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_dat_vr.dm
index 19befd3035..9453edc66f 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_dat_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_dat_vr.dm
@@ -9,7 +9,7 @@
 /datum/belly
 	var/name								// Name of this location
 	var/inside_flavor						// Flavor text description of inside sight/sound/smells/feels.
-	var/vore_sound = 'sound/vore/gulp.ogg'	// Sound when ingesting someone
+	var/vore_sound = "Gulp"					// Sound when ingesting someone
 	var/vore_verb = "ingest"				// Verb for eating with this in messages
 	var/human_prey_swallow_time = 100		// Time in deciseconds to swallow /mob/living/carbon/human
 	var/nonhuman_prey_swallow_time = 30		// Time in deciseconds to swallow anything else
@@ -107,7 +107,6 @@
 	new_belly.emote_time = emoteTime
 	new_belly.digest_brute = digest_brute
 	new_belly.digest_burn = digest_burn
-	new_belly.digest_tickrate = digest_tickrate
 	new_belly.immutable = immutable
 	new_belly.can_taste = can_taste
 	new_belly.escapable = escapable
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm b/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm
index 01f21b4124..3b48c3b1c2 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm
@@ -13,14 +13,13 @@
 /obj/belly
 	name = "belly"							// Name of this location
 	desc = "It's a belly! You're in it!"	// Flavor text description of inside sight/sound/smells/feels.
-	var/vore_sound = 'sound/vore/gulp.ogg'	// Sound when ingesting someone
+	var/vore_sound = "Gulp"					// Sound when ingesting someone
 	var/vore_verb = "ingest"				// Verb for eating with this in messages
 	var/human_prey_swallow_time = 100		// Time in deciseconds to swallow /mob/living/carbon/human
 	var/nonhuman_prey_swallow_time = 30		// Time in deciseconds to swallow anything else
 	var/emote_time = 60 SECONDS				// How long between stomach emotes at prey
 	var/digest_brute = 2					// Brute damage per tick in digestion mode
 	var/digest_burn = 2						// Burn damage per tick in digestion mode
-	var/digest_tickrate = 3					// Modulus this of air controller tick number to iterate gurgles on
 	var/immutable = 0						// Prevents this belly from being deleted
 	var/escapable = 0						// Belly can be resisted out of at any time
 	var/escapetime = 60 SECONDS				// Deciseconds, how long to escape this belly
@@ -100,6 +99,37 @@
 	//List has indexes that are the digestion mode strings, and keys that are lists of strings.
 	var/tmp/list/emote_lists = list()
 
+//For serialization, keep this updated, required for bellies to save correctly.
+/obj/belly/vars_to_save()
+	return ..() + list(
+		"name",
+		"desc",
+		"vore_sound",
+		"vore_verb",
+		"human_prey_swallow_time",
+		"nonhuman_prey_swallow_time",
+		"emote_time",
+		"digest_brute",
+		"digest_burn",
+		"immutable",
+		"can_taste",
+		"escapable",
+		"escapetime",
+		"digestchance",
+		"absorbchance",
+		"escapechance",
+		"transferchance",
+		"transferlocation",
+		"bulge_size",
+		"shrink_grow_size",
+		"struggle_messages_outside",
+		"struggle_messages_inside",
+		"digest_messages_owner",
+		"digest_messages_prey",
+		"examine_messages",
+		"emote_lists"
+		)
+
 /obj/belly/initialize()
 	. = ..()
 	//If not, we're probably just in a prefs list or something.
@@ -125,8 +155,10 @@
 	
 	//Sound w/ antispam flag setting
 	if(vore_sound && !recent_sound)
-		playsound(src, vore_sound, vol = 100, vary = 1, falloff = VORE_SOUND_FALLOFF, preference = /datum/client_preference/eating_noises)
-		recent_sound = TRUE
+		var/soundfile = vore_sounds[vore_sound]
+		if(soundfile)
+			playsound(src, soundfile, vol = 100, vary = 1, falloff = VORE_SOUND_FALLOFF, preference = /datum/client_preference/eating_noises)
+			recent_sound = TRUE
 	
 	//Messages if it's a mob
 	if(isliving(thing))
@@ -503,8 +535,10 @@
 	if(!(content in src) || !istype(target))
 		return
 	content.forceMove(target)
-	if(!silent)
-		playsound(src, target.vore_sound, vol = 100, vary = 1, falloff = VORE_SOUND_FALLOFF, preference = /datum/client_preference/digestion_noises)
+	if(!silent && target.vore_sound && !recent_sound)
+		var/soundfile = vore_sounds[target.vore_sound]
+		if(soundfile)
+			playsound(src, soundfile, vol = 100, vary = 1, falloff = VORE_SOUND_FALLOFF, preference = /datum/client_preference/digestion_noises)
 	owner.updateVRPanel()
 	for(var/mob/living/M in contents)
 		M.updateVRPanel()
@@ -524,7 +558,6 @@
 	dupe.emote_time = emote_time
 	dupe.digest_brute = digest_brute
 	dupe.digest_burn = digest_burn
-	dupe.digest_tickrate = digest_tickrate
 	dupe.immutable = immutable
 	dupe.can_taste = can_taste
 	dupe.escapable = escapable
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/eating/living_vr.dm b/code/modules/vore/eating/living_vr.dm
index 4b7fabc1d1..8ea2a05dc1 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/eating/living_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/eating/living_vr.dm
@@ -184,11 +184,17 @@
 
 	P.digestable = src.digestable
 	P.allowmobvore = src.allowmobvore
-	P.belly_prefs = src.vore_organs
 	P.vore_taste = src.vore_taste
 	P.can_be_drop_prey = src.can_be_drop_prey
 	P.can_be_drop_pred = src.can_be_drop_pred
 
+	var/list/serialized = list()
+	for(var/belly in src.vore_organs)
+		var/obj/belly/B = belly
+		serialized += list(B.serialize()) //Can't add a list as an object to another list in Byond. Thanks.
+	
+	P.belly_prefs = serialized
+
 	return 1
 
 //
@@ -201,27 +207,15 @@
 
 	var/datum/vore_preferences/P = client.prefs_vr
 
-	vore_organs = list()
 	digestable = P.digestable
 	allowmobvore = P.allowmobvore
 	vore_taste = P.vore_taste
 	can_be_drop_prey = P.can_be_drop_prey
 	can_be_drop_pred = P.can_be_drop_pred
 
-	var/force_save = FALSE
-	for(var/I in P.belly_prefs)
-		if(isbelly(I)) //Belly system 2.0
-			var/obj/belly/saved = I
-			saved.copy(src)
-		else if(istext(I)) //Belly name for old datum system
-			force_save = TRUE
-			log_debug("[src] had legacy belly [I], converting.")
-			var/datum/belly/Bp = P.belly_prefs[I]
-			var/obj/belly/new_belly = new(src)
-			Bp.copy(new_belly) //Rewritten to convert to a 2.0 belly
-
-	if(force_save)
-		save_vore_prefs()
+	vore_organs.Cut()
+	for(var/entry in P.belly_prefs)
+		list_to_object(entry,src)
 
 	return 1
 
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/eating/vore_vr.dm b/code/modules/vore/eating/vore_vr.dm
index dcef2a4577..2205e54432 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/eating/vore_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/eating/vore_vr.dm
@@ -41,12 +41,12 @@ V::::::V           V::::::VO:::::::OOO:::::::ORR:::::R     R:::::REE::::::EEEEEE
 
 /datum/vore_preferences
 	//Actual preferences
-	var/digestable = 1
-	var/allowmobvore = 1
+	var/digestable = TRUE
+	var/allowmobvore = TRUE
 	var/list/belly_prefs = list()
-	var/vore_taste
-	var/can_be_drop_prey
-	var/can_be_drop_pred
+	var/vore_taste = "nothing in particular"
+	var/can_be_drop_prey = FALSE
+	var/can_be_drop_pred = FALSE
 
 	//Mechanically required
 	var/path
@@ -58,7 +58,7 @@ V::::::V           V::::::VO:::::::OOO:::::::ORR:::::R     R:::::REE::::::EEEEEE
 	if(istype(C))
 		client = C
 		client_ckey = C.ckey
-		load_vore(C)
+		load_vore()
 
 //
 //	Check if an object is capable of eating things, based on vore_organs
@@ -80,34 +80,49 @@ V::::::V           V::::::VO:::::::OOO:::::::ORR:::::R     R:::::REE::::::EEEEEE
 //
 // Save/Load Vore Preferences
 //
+/datum/vore_preferences/proc/load_path(ckey,slot,filename="character",ext="json")
+	if(!ckey || !slot)	return
+	path = "data/player_saves/[copytext(ckey,1,2)]/[ckey]/vore/[filename][slot].[ext]"
+
+
 /datum/vore_preferences/proc/load_vore()
-	if(!client || !client_ckey) return 0 //No client, how can we save?
+	if(!client || !client_ckey)
+		return 0 //No client, how can we save?
+	if(!client.prefs || !client.prefs.default_slot)
+		return 0 //Need to know what character to load!
 
 	slot = client.prefs.default_slot
-
-	path = client.prefs.path
-
+	
+	load_path(client_ckey,slot)
+	
 	if(!path) return 0 //Path couldn't be set?
 	if(!fexists(path)) //Never saved before
 		save_vore() //Make the file first
 		return 1
 
-	var/savefile/S = new /savefile(path)
-	if(!S) return 0 //Savefile object couldn't be created?
+	var/list/json_from_file = json_decode(file2text(path))
+	if(!json_from_file)
+		return 0 //My concern grows
 
-	S.cd = "/character[slot]"
+	var/version = json_from_file["version"]
+	json_from_file = patch_version(json_from_file,version)
 
-	S["digestable"] >> digestable
-	S["allowmobvore"] >> allowmobvore
-	S["belly_prefs"] >> belly_prefs
-	S["vore_taste"] >> vore_taste
-	S["can_be_drop_prey"] >> can_be_drop_prey
-	S["can_be_drop_pred"] >> can_be_drop_pred
+	digestable = json_from_file["digestable"]
+	allowmobvore = json_from_file["allowmobvore"]
+	vore_taste = json_from_file["vore_taste"]
+	can_be_drop_prey = json_from_file["can_be_drop_prey"]
+	can_be_drop_prey = json_from_file["can_be_drop_pred"]
+	belly_prefs = json_from_file["belly_prefs"]
 
+	//Quick sanitize
 	if(isnull(digestable))
-		digestable = 1
+		digestable = TRUE
 	if(isnull(allowmobvore))
-		allowmobvore = 1
+		allowmobvore = TRUE
+	if(isnull(can_be_drop_prey))
+		allowmobvore = FALSE
+	if(isnull(can_be_drop_pred))
+		allowmobvore = FALSE
 	if(isnull(belly_prefs))
 		belly_prefs = list()
 
@@ -115,16 +130,34 @@ V::::::V           V::::::VO:::::::OOO:::::::ORR:::::R     R:::::REE::::::EEEEEE
 
 /datum/vore_preferences/proc/save_vore()
 	if(!path)				return 0
-	if(!slot)				return 0
-	var/savefile/S = new /savefile(path)
-	if(!S)					return 0
-	S.cd = "/character[slot]"
+	
+	var/version = 1	//For "good times" use in the future
+	var/list/settings_list = list(
+			"version"				= version,
+			"digestable"			= digestable,
+			"allowmobvore"			= allowmobvore,
+			"vore_taste"			= vore_taste,
+			"can_be_drop_prey"		= can_be_drop_prey,
+			"can_be_drop_pred"		= can_be_drop_pred,
+			"belly_prefs"			= belly_prefs,
+		)
 
-	S["digestable"] << digestable
-	S["allowmobvore"] << allowmobvore
-	S["belly_prefs"] << belly_prefs
-	S["vore_taste"] << vore_taste
-	S["can_be_drop_prey"] << can_be_drop_prey
-	S["can_be_drop_pred"] << can_be_drop_pred
+	//List to JSON
+	var/json_to_file = json_encode(settings_list)
+	if(!json_to_file)
+		log_debug("Saving: [path] failed jsonencode")
+		return 0
+	
+	//Write it out
+	if(fexists(path))
+		fdel(path) //Byond only supports APPENDING to files, not replacing.
+	text2file(json_to_file,path)
+	if(!fexists(path))
+		log_debug("Saving: [path] failed file write")
+		return 0
 
 	return 1
+
+//Can do conversions here
+/datum/vore_preferences/proc/patch_version(var/list/json_from_file,var/version)
+	return json_from_file
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/eating/vorepanel_vr.dm b/code/modules/vore/eating/vorepanel_vr.dm
index f0f564f87f..89c40daf92 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/eating/vorepanel_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/eating/vorepanel_vr.dm
@@ -525,12 +525,11 @@
 			"Struggle Message (outside)",
 			"Struggle Message (inside)",
 			"Examine Message (when full)",
-			"Reset All To Default",
-			"Cancel - No Changes"
+			"Reset All To Default"
 		)
 
 		alert(user,"Setting abusive or deceptive messages will result in a ban. Consider this your warning. Max 150 characters per message, max 10 messages per topic.","Really, don't.")
-		var/choice = input(user,"Select a type to modify. Messages from each topic are pulled at random when needed.","Pick Type") in messages
+		var/choice = input(user,"Select a type to modify. Messages from each topic are pulled at random when needed.","Pick Type") as null|anything in messages
 		var/help = " Press enter twice to separate messages. '%pred' will be replaced with your name. '%prey' will be replaced with the prey's name. '%belly' will be replaced with your belly's name."
 
 		switch(choice)
@@ -567,9 +566,6 @@
 					selected.struggle_messages_outside = initial(selected.struggle_messages_outside)
 					selected.struggle_messages_inside = initial(selected.struggle_messages_inside)
 
-			if("Cancel - No Changes")
-				return 0
-
 	if(href_list["b_verb"])
 		var/new_verb = html_encode(input(usr,"New verb when eating (infinitive tense, e.g. nom or swallow):","New Verb") as text|null)
 
@@ -580,15 +576,16 @@
 		selected.vore_verb = new_verb
 
 	if(href_list["b_sound"])
-		var/choice = input(user,"Currently set to [selected.vore_sound]","Select Sound") in vore_sounds + "Cancel - No Changes"
-
-		if(choice == "Cancel")
+		var/choice = input(user,"Currently set to [selected.vore_sound]","Select Sound") as null|anything in vore_sounds
+		if(!choice)
 			return 0
 
-		selected.vore_sound = vore_sounds[choice]
+		selected.vore_sound = choice
 
 	if(href_list["b_soundtest"])
-		user << selected.vore_sound
+		var/soundfile = vore_sounds[selected.vore_sound]
+		if(soundfile)
+			user << soundfile
 
 	if(href_list["b_tastes"])
 		selected.can_taste = !selected.can_taste
diff --git a/vorestation.dme b/vorestation.dme
index 0f1f8fd84a..060a65a44e 100644
--- a/vorestation.dme
+++ b/vorestation.dme
@@ -2295,6 +2295,7 @@
 #include "code\modules\paperwork\photography.dm"
 #include "code\modules\paperwork\silicon_photography.dm"
 #include "code\modules\paperwork\stamps.dm"
+#include "code\modules\persistence\persistence.dm"
 #include "code\modules\planet\planet.dm"
 #include "code\modules\planet\time.dm"
 #include "code\modules\planet\weather.dm"