diff --git a/code/datums/mutable_appearance.dm b/code/datums/mutable_appearance.dm
index 1cb3a97d9f..16d10ae035 100644
--- a/code/datums/mutable_appearance.dm
+++ b/code/datums/mutable_appearance.dm
@@ -4,10 +4,11 @@
 
 // Mutable appearances are children of images, just so you know.
 
-/mutable_appearance/New()
+/mutable_appearance/New(copy_from, ...)
 	..()
-	plane = FLOAT_PLANE // No clue why this is 0 by default yet images are on FLOAT_PLANE
-						// And yes this does have to be in the constructor, BYOND ignores it if you set it as a normal var
+	if(!copy_from)
+		plane = FLOAT_PLANE // No clue why this is 0 by default yet images are on FLOAT_PLANE
+							// And yes this does have to be in the constructor, BYOND ignores it if you set it as a normal var
 
 // Helper similar to image()
 /proc/mutable_appearance(icon, icon_state = "", layer = FLOAT_LAYER)
diff --git a/code/game/objects/items/weapons/storage/fancy.dm b/code/game/objects/items/weapons/storage/fancy.dm
index 94e2e559db..8b31517fd0 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/items/weapons/storage/fancy.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/items/weapons/storage/fancy.dm
@@ -98,8 +98,6 @@
 
 /obj/item/weapon/storage/fancy/crayons/update_icon()
 	var/mutable_appearance/ma = new(src)
-	ma.plane = plane
-	ma.layer = layer
 	ma.overlays = list()
 	for(var/obj/item/weapon/pen/crayon/crayon in contents)
 		ma.overlays += image('icons/obj/crayons.dmi',crayon.colourName)
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/update_icons.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/update_icons.dm
index 3b6a790a34..657b9005d7 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/update_icons.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/update_icons.dm
@@ -160,8 +160,6 @@ Please contact me on #coderbus IRC. ~Carn x
 
 	//0: We start with their existing appearance (this contains their verbs, important to keep those!)
 	var/mutable_appearance/ma_compiled = new(src)
-	ma_compiled.plane = plane //Required because of an override on mutable_appearance/New() that sets it to FLOAT_PLANE...for some reason.
-	ma_compiled.layer = layer
 
 	//1: HUDs because these are hidden behind a backplane. See update_icons_huds()
 	ma_compiled.overlays = list_huds //The first one can set instead of add
@@ -190,8 +188,6 @@ Please contact me on #coderbus IRC. ~Carn x
 		ma = passed_ma
 	else
 		ma = new(src)
-		ma.plane = plane //Required because of an override on mutable_appearance/New() that sets it to FLOAT_PLANE...for some reason.
-		ma.layer = layer
 
 	/* VOREStation Edit START - TODO - Consider switching to icon_scale
 	// First, get the correct size.
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/simple_animal/vore/shadekin/shadekin.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/simple_animal/vore/shadekin/shadekin.dm
index 7748ca2254..5594a6f1bc 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/simple_animal/vore/shadekin/shadekin.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/simple_animal/vore/shadekin/shadekin.dm
@@ -225,8 +225,6 @@
 	eyeimage = image(icon,null,eye_icon_state)
 
 	var/mutable_appearance/ma = new(src)
-	ma.plane = plane
-	ma.layer = layer
 	ma.overlays += tailimage
 	ma.overlays += eyeimage
 	appearance = ma
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/fluffstuff/guns/nsfw.dm b/code/modules/vore/fluffstuff/guns/nsfw.dm
index 9ed2b96600..4d8a529d04 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/fluffstuff/guns/nsfw.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/fluffstuff/guns/nsfw.dm
@@ -114,8 +114,6 @@
 
 /obj/item/weapon/gun/projectile/nsfw/update_icon()
 	var/mutable_appearance/ma = new(src)
-	ma.plane = plane //This is especially weird as new(src) should take these, but it doens't?
-	ma.layer = layer //Instead it ends up on FLOAT_PLANE
 	update_charge()
 
 	if(!chambered)
@@ -179,8 +177,6 @@
 
 /obj/item/ammo_magazine/nsfw_mag/update_icon()
 	var/mutable_appearance/ma = new(src)
-	ma.plane = plane //This is especially weird as new(src) should take these, but it doens't?
-	ma.layer = layer //Instead it ends up on FLOAT_PLANE
 
 	if(!stored_ammo.len)
 		ma.overlays = list()