diff --git a/code/modules/client/preferences_savefile.dm b/code/modules/client/preferences_savefile.dm
index 20d7e445..ebd93b81 100644
--- a/code/modules/client/preferences_savefile.dm
+++ b/code/modules/client/preferences_savefile.dm
@@ -633,8 +633,8 @@ SAVEFILE UPDATING/VERSIONING - 'Simplified', or rather, more coder-friendly ~Car
 	return 1
 
 
-#undef SAVEFILE_VERSION_MAX
-#undef SAVEFILE_VERSION_MIN
+//#undef SAVEFILE_VERSION_MAX
+//#undef SAVEFILE_VERSION_MIN
 
 #ifdef TESTING
 //DEBUG
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/dead/new_player/login.dm b/code/modules/mob/dead/new_player/login.dm
index 88755650..c28e780a 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/dead/new_player/login.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/dead/new_player/login.dm
@@ -32,3 +32,14 @@
 		else
 			postfix = "soon"
 		to_chat(src, "Please set up your character and select \"Ready\". The game will start [postfix].")
+
+	if(client.prefs.path)	//Hyper edit: notify of a newer preference version
+		var/savefile/S = new /savefile(client.prefs.path)
+		if(S)
+			S.cd = "/"
+			var/slot
+			S["default_slot"] >> slot
+			if(slot)
+				S.cd = "/character[slot]"
+				if(S["version"] < SAVEFILE_VERSION_MAX)
+					to_chat(src, "<span class='redtext'>Your characters are outdated from recent updates. Please make sure if everything is within reasonable levels.</span>")