diff --git a/code/modules/admin/db_ban/functions.dm b/code/modules/admin/db_ban/functions.dm
index 7d42d900578..029b80de4d2 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/db_ban/functions.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/db_ban/functions.dm
@@ -61,8 +61,8 @@
 	var/computerid
 	var/ip
 
-	if(ismob(banned_mob) && banned_mob.ckey)
-		ckey = banned_mob.ckey
+	if(ismob(banned_mob) && banned_mob.last_known_ckey)
+		ckey = banned_mob.last_known_ckey
 		if(banned_mob.client)
 			computerid = banned_mob.client.computer_id
 			ip = banned_mob.client.address
@@ -496,7 +496,7 @@
 		output += "<option value='[j]'>[j]</option>"
 	output += "</select></td></tr></table>"
 	output += "<b>Reason:<br></b><textarea name='dbbanreason' cols='55' rows='10'></textarea><br>"
-	output += "<input type='checkbox' value='1' name='autopopulate' checked='1'>&nbsp;Auto populate CID & IP for online players<br>"
+	output += "<input type='checkbox' value='1' name='autopopulate' checked='1'>&nbsp;Auto populate CID & IP for players seen this round<br>"
 	output += "<input type='submit' value='Add ban'>"
 	output += "</form>"
 
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/topic.dm b/code/modules/admin/topic.dm
index 5781dd6254a..cc8b859095c 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/topic.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/topic.dm
@@ -153,10 +153,13 @@
 		var/mob/playermob
 
 		if("autopopulate" in href_list)
-			for(var/mob/M in GLOB.player_list)
+			for(var/mob/M in GLOB.mob_list)
 				if(M.ckey == banckey)
 					playermob = M
 					break
+				else if(M.last_known_ckey == banckey)
+					playermob = M
+					// ... but do not break, so we prefer current ckeys.
 
 		banreason = "(MANUAL BAN) "+banreason
 
@@ -166,7 +169,7 @@
 			if(bancid)
 				banreason = "[banreason] (CUSTOM CID)"
 		else
-			message_admins("Ban process: A mob matching [playermob.ckey] was found at location [playermob.x], [playermob.y], [playermob.z]. Custom IP and computer id fields replaced with the IP and computer id from the located mob")
+			message_admins("Ban process: A mob matching [playermob.last_known_ckey] was found at location [playermob.x], [playermob.y], [playermob.z]. Custom IP and computer id fields replaced with the IP and computer id from the located mob")
 
 		if(job_ban)
 			if(banjob in list("commanddept","securitydept","engineeringdept","medicaldept","sciencedept","servicedept","supplydept","nonhumandept"))
@@ -444,7 +447,7 @@
 			to_chat(usr, "<span class='warning'>This can only be used on instances of type /mob</span>")
 			return
 
-		if(!M.ckey)	//sanity
+		if(!M.last_known_ckey)	//sanity
 			to_chat(usr, "<span class='warning'>This mob has no ckey</span>")
 			return
 		if(!SSjobs)
@@ -465,17 +468,17 @@
 //Regular jobs
 	//Command (Blue)
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr align='center' bgcolor='ccccff'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.command_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=commanddept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Command Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr align='center' bgcolor='ccccff'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.command_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=commanddept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Command Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.command_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 6) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -486,17 +489,17 @@
 	//Security (Red)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ffddf0'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.security_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=securitydept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Security Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ffddf0'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.security_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=securitydept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Security Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.security_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -507,17 +510,17 @@
 	//Engineering (Yellow)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='fff5cc'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.engineering_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=engineeringdept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Engineering Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='fff5cc'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.engineering_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=engineeringdept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Engineering Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.engineering_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -528,17 +531,17 @@
 	//Medical (White)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ffeef0'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.medical_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=medicaldept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Medical Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ffeef0'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.medical_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=medicaldept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Medical Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.medical_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -549,17 +552,17 @@
 	//Science (Purple)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='e79fff'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.science_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=sciencedept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Science Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='e79fff'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.science_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=sciencedept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Science Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.science_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -570,17 +573,17 @@
 	//Service (Grey)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='dddddd'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.service_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=servicedept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Service Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='dddddd'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.service_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=servicedept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Service Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.service_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -591,17 +594,17 @@
 	//Supply (Brown)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='e2c59d'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.supply_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=supplydept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Supply Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='e2c59d'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.supply_positions)]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=supplydept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Supply Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.supply_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -612,17 +615,17 @@
 	//Non-Human (Green)
 		counter = 0
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ccffcc'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.nonhuman_positions)+1]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=nonhumandept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Non-human Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ccffcc'><th colspan='[length(GLOB.nonhuman_positions)+1]'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=nonhumandept;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Non-human Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 		for(var/jobPos in GLOB.nonhuman_positions)
 			if(!jobPos)	continue
 			var/datum/job/job = SSjobs.GetJob(jobPos)
 			if(!job) continue
 
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, job.title))
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 				counter++
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[job.title];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(job.title, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 				counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -631,29 +634,29 @@
 
 		//Drone
 		if(jobban_isbanned(M, "Drone"))
-			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=Drone;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>Drone</font></a></td>"
+			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=Drone;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>Drone</font></a></td>"
 		else
-			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=Drone;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Drone</a></td>"
+			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=Drone;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Drone</a></td>"
 
 		//pAI
 		if(jobban_isbanned(M, "pAI"))
-			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=pAI;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>pAI</font></a></td>"
+			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=pAI;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>pAI</font></a></td>"
 		else
-			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=pAI;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>pAI</a></td>"
+			jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=pAI;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>pAI</a></td>"
 
 		jobs += "</tr></table>"
 
 	//Antagonist (Orange)
 		var/isbanned_dept = jobban_isbanned(M, "Syndicate")
 		jobs += "<table cellpadding='1' cellspacing='0' width='100%'>"
-		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ffeeaa'><th colspan='10'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=Syndicate;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>Antagonist Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
+		jobs += "<tr bgcolor='ffeeaa'><th colspan='10'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=Syndicate;jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>Antagonist Positions</a></th></tr><tr align='center'>"
 
 		counter = 0
 		for(var/role in GLOB.antag_roles)
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, role) || isbanned_dept)
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 			counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -668,9 +671,9 @@
 		counter = 0
 		for(var/role in GLOB.other_roles)
 			if(jobban_isbanned(M, role) || isbanned_dept)
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'><font color=red>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</font></a></td>"
 			else
-				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.ckey]'>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
+				jobs += "<td width='20%'><a href='byond://?src=[UID()];jobban3=[role];jobban4=[M.UID()];dbbanaddckey=[M.last_known_ckey]'>[replacetext(role, " ", "&nbsp")]</a></td>"
 			counter++
 
 			if(counter >= 5) //So things dont get squiiiiished!
@@ -766,7 +769,7 @@
 
 		//Banning comes first
 		if(length(notbannedlist)) //at least 1 unbanned job exists in joblist so we have stuff to ban.
-			switch(alert("Temporary Ban of [M.ckey]?", null,"Yes","No", "Cancel"))
+			switch(alert("Temporary Ban of [M.last_known_ckey]?", null,"Yes","No", "Cancel"))
 				if("Yes")
 					var/mins = input(usr,"How long (in minutes)?","Ban time",1440) as num|null
 					if(!mins)
@@ -784,7 +787,7 @@
 							msg = job
 						else
 							msg += ", [job]"
-					add_note(M.ckey, "Banned  from [msg] - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, 0)
+					add_note(M.last_known_ckey, "Banned  from [msg] - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, 0)
 					message_admins("<span class='notice'>[key_name_admin(usr)] banned [key_name_admin(M)] from [msg] for [mins] minutes</span>", 1)
 
 					// Reload their job ban holder (refresh this round)
@@ -807,7 +810,7 @@
 								msg = job
 							else
 								msg += ", [job]"
-						add_note(M.ckey, "Banned  from [msg] - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, 0)
+						add_note(M.last_known_ckey, "Banned  from [msg] - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, 0)
 						message_admins("<span class='notice'>[key_name_admin(usr)] banned [key_name_admin(M)] from [msg]</span>", 1)
 
 						// Reload their job ban holder (refresh this round)
@@ -912,7 +915,7 @@
 			return
 		var/ban_ckey_param = href_list["dbbanaddckey"]
 
-		switch(alert("Temporary Ban of [M.ckey] / [ban_ckey_param]?", null,"Yes","No", "Cancel"))
+		switch(alert("Temporary Ban of [M.last_known_ckey] / [ban_ckey_param]?", null,"Yes","No", "Cancel"))
 			if("Yes")
 				var/mins = input(usr,"How long (in minutes)?","Ban time",1440) as num|null
 				if(!mins)
@@ -925,15 +928,15 @@
 				to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'><big><b>You have been banned by [usr.client.ckey].\nReason: [reason].</b></big></span>")
 				to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>This is a temporary ban, it will be removed in [mins] minutes.</span>")
 				DB_ban_record(BANTYPE_TEMP, M, mins, reason)
-				add_note(M.ckey, "Banned for [mins] minutes - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, FALSE)
+				add_note(M.last_known_ckey, "Banned for [mins] minutes - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, FALSE)
 				if(M.client)
 					M.client.link_forum_account(TRUE)
 				if(GLOB.configuration.url.banappeals_url)
 					to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>To try to resolve this matter head to [GLOB.configuration.url.banappeals_url]</span>")
 				else
 					to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>No ban appeals URL has been set.</span>")
-				log_admin("[key_name(usr)] has banned [M.ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis will be removed in [mins] minutes.")
-				message_admins("<span class='notice'>[key_name_admin(usr)] has banned [M.ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis will be removed in [mins] minutes.</span>")
+				log_admin("[key_name(usr)] has banned [M.last_known_ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis will be removed in [mins] minutes.")
+				message_admins("<span class='notice'>[key_name_admin(usr)] has banned [M.last_known_ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis will be removed in [mins] minutes.</span>")
 
 				qdel(M.client)
 			if("No")
@@ -948,10 +951,10 @@
 					to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>To try to resolve this matter head to [GLOB.configuration.url.banappeals_url]</span>")
 				else
 					to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>No ban appeals URL has been set.</span>")
-				log_admin("[key_name(usr)] has banned [M.ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis ban does not expire automatically and must be appealed.")
-				message_admins("<span class='notice'>[key_name_admin(usr)] has banned [M.ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis ban does not expire automatically and must be appealed.</span>")
+				log_admin("[key_name(usr)] has banned [M.last_known_ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis ban does not expire automatically and must be appealed.")
+				message_admins("<span class='notice'>[key_name_admin(usr)] has banned [M.last_known_ckey].\nReason: [reason]\nThis ban does not expire automatically and must be appealed.</span>")
 				DB_ban_record(BANTYPE_PERMA, M, -1, reason)
-				add_note(M.ckey, "Permanently banned - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, FALSE)
+				add_note(M.last_known_ckey, "Permanently banned - [reason]", null, usr.ckey, FALSE)
 
 				qdel(M.client)
 			if("Cancel")
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/mob_login_base.dm b/code/modules/mob/mob_login_base.dm
index 326108cf97b..7c2a6354fa9 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/mob_login_base.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/mob_login_base.dm
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
-//handles setting lastKnownIP and computer_id for use by the ban systems as well as checking for multikeying
+//handles setting last_known_ckey, lastKnownIP, and computer_id for use by the ban systems as well as checking for multikeying
 /mob/proc/update_Login_details()
 	//Multikey checks and logging
+	last_known_ckey = ckey
 	lastKnownIP	= client.address
 	computer_id	= client.computer_id
 	log_access_in(client)
@@ -31,7 +32,6 @@
 
 /mob/Login()
 	GLOB.player_list |= src
-	last_known_ckey = ckey
 	update_Login_details()
 	world.update_status()
 
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/new_player/new_player_login.dm b/code/modules/mob/new_player/new_player_login.dm
index ffd7902f7c0..95225af0d00 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/new_player/new_player_login.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/new_player/new_player_login.dm
@@ -1,5 +1,5 @@
 /mob/new_player/Login()
-	update_Login_details()	//handles setting lastKnownIP and computer_id for use by the ban systems as well as checking for multikeying
+	update_Login_details()	//handles setting last_known_ckey, lastKnownIP, and computer_id for use by the ban systems as well as checking for multikeying
 	if(GLOB.join_motd)
 		to_chat(src, "<div class='motd'>[GLOB.join_motd]</div>")