diff --git a/code/modules/antagonists/changeling/powers/mutations.dm b/code/modules/antagonists/changeling/powers/mutations.dm
index d7141f1b5a8..cf445b96e3c 100644
--- a/code/modules/antagonists/changeling/powers/mutations.dm
+++ b/code/modules/antagonists/changeling/powers/mutations.dm
@@ -454,7 +454,6 @@
 	flags = NODROP | DROPDEL
 	body_parts_covered = UPPER_TORSO|LOWER_TORSO|LEGS|FEET|ARMS|HANDS
 	armor = list(MELEE = 40, BULLET = 40, LASER = 40, ENERGY = 20, BOMB = 10, RAD = 0, FIRE = 90, ACID = 90)
-	var/armor_durability = 600
 	flags_inv = HIDEJUMPSUIT
 	cold_protection = 0
 	heat_protection = 0
@@ -467,35 +466,57 @@
 
 /obj/item/clothing/suit/armor/changeling/hit_reaction(mob/living/carbon/human/owner, atom/movable/hitby, attack_text, final_block_chance, damage)
 	. = ..()
-	if(istype(hitby, /obj/item/projectile/energy/charged_plasma))
-		armor_durability -= 200 // the plasma pistol is designed to be a niche tool for blasting through shields, may as well let it cut away armor
-	else if(istype(hitby, /obj/item/projectile/plasma))
-		armor_durability -= damage * 4
-	else if(istype(hitby, /obj/item/projectile))
-		var/obj/item/projectile/P = hitby
-		if(P.damage_type == BURN)
-			armor_durability -= damage * 2
-		else
-			armor_durability -= damage
-	else
-		var/obj/item/I = hitby
-		if(istype(I, /obj/item/circular_saw))
-			armor_durability -= 25 // saws used to cut away armor through an interaction, so let's keep them somewhat more effective
-		else if(istype(I))
-			if(I.damtype == BURN)
-				armor_durability -= damage * 2
-			else
-				armor_durability -= damage
-		else
-			armor_durability--
 
-	if(armor_durability <= 0)
-		visible_message("<span class='warning'>[owner]'s chitinous armor collapses in clumps onto the ground.</span>")
-		new /obj/effect/decal/cleanable/shreds(owner.loc)
-		// just unequip them since they qdel on drop
-		owner.unEquip(src, TRUE, TRUE)
-		if(istype(owner.head, /obj/item/clothing/head/helmet/changeling))
-			owner.unEquip(owner.head, TRUE, TRUE)
+	if(!IS_HORIZONTAL(owner))
+		return
+
+	var/obj/item/I = hitby
+
+	if(!isliving(I.loc))
+		// Maybe it's on the ground? Maybe it's being used telekinetically? IDK
+		return
+
+	// The user who's wielding the tool
+	var/mob/living/user = I.loc
+
+	// snowflake checks my beloved
+	// this will become tooltype checks I swear
+	if(!istype(I, /obj/item/circular_saw) && !istype(I, /obj/item/twohanded/required/chainsaw) && !istype(I, /obj/item/twohanded/chainsaw))
+		return
+
+	user.visible_message(
+		"<span class='notice'>[user] starts to saw through [owner]'s [name].</span>",
+		"<span class='notice'>You start to saw through [owner]'s [name].</span>",
+		"<span class='notice'>You hear a loud grinding noise.</span>"
+	)
+
+	if(!do_after(user, 15 SECONDS, target = owner))
+		user.visible_message(
+			"<span class='warning'>[user] fails to cut through [owner]'s [name].</span>",
+			"<span class='warning'>You fail to cut through [owner]'s [name].</span>",
+			"<span class='notice'>You hear the grinding stop.</span>"
+		)
+		return FALSE
+
+	// check again after the do_after to make sure they haven't gotten up
+	if(!IS_HORIZONTAL(owner))
+		return FALSE
+
+	user.visible_message(
+		"<span class='warning'>\The [name] turns to shreds as [user] cleaves through it!</span>",
+		"<span class='warning'>\The [name] turns to shreds as you cleave through it!</span>",
+		"<span class='notice'>You hear something fall as the grinding ends.</span>"
+	)
+
+	playsound(I, I.hitsound, 50)
+	// you've torn it up, get rid of it.
+	new /obj/effect/decal/cleanable/shreds(owner.loc)
+	// just unequip them since they qdel on drop
+	owner.unEquip(src, TRUE, TRUE)
+	if(istype(owner.head, /obj/item/clothing/head/helmet/changeling))
+		owner.unEquip(owner.head, TRUE, TRUE)
+
+	return TRUE
 
 /obj/item/clothing/head/helmet/changeling
 	name = "chitinous mass"
diff --git a/code/modules/food_and_drinks/kitchen_machinery/gibber.dm b/code/modules/food_and_drinks/kitchen_machinery/gibber.dm
index f098f5ac594..aa3adc82abb 100644
--- a/code/modules/food_and_drinks/kitchen_machinery/gibber.dm
+++ b/code/modules/food_and_drinks/kitchen_machinery/gibber.dm
@@ -139,20 +139,25 @@
 		to_chat(user, "<span class='danger'>This is not suitable for [src]!</span>")
 		return
 
-	if(victim.abiotic(TRUE))
-		to_chat(user, "<span class='danger'>Subject may not have anything on their body.</span>")
-		return
-
 	user.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[user] starts to put [victim] into [src]!</span>")
 	add_fingerprint(user)
-	if(do_after(user, 30, target = victim) && user.Adjacent(src) && victim.Adjacent(user) && !occupant)
+
+	if(victim.abiotic(TRUE))
+		to_chat(user, "<span class='danger'>Clothing detected. Please speak to an engineer if any clothing jams up the interal grinders!</span>")
+		if(do_after(user, 15 SECONDS, target = victim) && user.Adjacent(src) && victim.Adjacent(user) && !occupant) //15 seconds if they are not fully stripped, 12 more than normal. Similarly, takes about that long to strip a person in a ert hardsuit of all gear.
+			user.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[user] stuffs [victim] into [src]!</span>")
+		else
+			return
+	else if(do_after(user, 3 SECONDS, target = victim) && user.Adjacent(src) && victim.Adjacent(user) && !occupant)
 		user.visible_message("<span class='danger'>[user] stuffs [victim] into [src]!</span>")
+	else
+		return
+	victim.forceMove(src)
+	occupant = victim
 
-		victim.forceMove(src)
-		occupant = victim
+	update_icon(UPDATE_OVERLAYS | UPDATE_ICON_STATE)
+	INVOKE_ASYNC(src, PROC_REF(feedinTopanim))
 
-		update_icon(UPDATE_OVERLAYS | UPDATE_ICON_STATE)
-		INVOKE_ASYNC(src, PROC_REF(feedinTopanim))
 
 /obj/machinery/gibber/verb/eject()
 	set category = "Object"
@@ -286,6 +291,26 @@
 	occupant.emote("scream")
 	playsound(get_turf(src), 'sound/goonstation/effects/gib.ogg', 50, 1)
 	victims += "\[[all_timestamps()]\] [key_name(occupant)] killed by [UserOverride ? "Autogibbing" : "[key_name(user)]"]" //have to do this before ghostizing
+	if(!stealthmode && ishuman(occupant))
+		var/mob/living/carbon/human/H = occupant
+		for(var/obj/item/I in H.get_contents())
+			if(I.resistance_flags & INDESTRUCTIBLE)
+				I.forceMove(get_turf(src))
+		if(H.get_item_by_slot(slot_wear_suit))
+			var/obj/item/ws = H.get_item_by_slot(slot_s_store)
+			if(ws.resistance_flags & INDESTRUCTIBLE)
+				ws.forceMove(get_turf(src))
+				H.s_store = null
+		if(H.get_item_by_slot(slot_l_store))
+			var/obj/item/ls = H.get_item_by_slot(slot_l_store)
+			if(ls.resistance_flags & INDESTRUCTIBLE)
+				ls.forceMove(get_turf(src))
+				H.l_store = null
+		if(H.get_item_by_slot(slot_r_store))
+			var/obj/item/rs = H.get_item_by_slot(slot_r_store)
+			if(rs.resistance_flags & INDESTRUCTIBLE)
+				rs.forceMove(get_turf(src))
+				H.r_store = null
 	occupant.death(1)
 	occupant.ghostize()