diff --git a/code/__HELPERS/traits.dm b/code/__HELPERS/traits.dm
index dd16f7ee66e..dcd979ee1fd 100644
--- a/code/__HELPERS/traits.dm
+++ b/code/__HELPERS/traits.dm
@@ -222,6 +222,7 @@ Remember to update _globalvars/traits.dm if you're adding/removing/renaming trai
 #define CHANGELING_DRAIN "drain"
 #define TRAIT_HULK "hulk"
 #define STASIS_MUTE "stasis"
+#define SCRYING "scrying" // for mobs that have ghosted, but their ghosts are allowed to return to their body outside of aghosting (spirit rune, scrying orb, etc)
 #define SCRYING_ORB "scrying-orb"
 #define CULT_EYES "cult_eyes"
 #define DOGGO_SPACESUIT "doggo_spacesuit"
diff --git a/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm b/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm
index e34425862df..2dd6444094b 100644
--- a/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm
+++ b/code/game/gamemodes/cult/runes.dm
@@ -947,6 +947,7 @@ structure_check() searches for nearby cultist structures required for the invoca
 		new_human.dust()
 
 /obj/effect/rune/manifest/proc/ghostify(mob/living/user, turf/T)
+	ADD_TRAIT(user, SCRYING, CULT_TRAIT)
 	user.add_atom_colour(RUNE_COLOR_DARKRED, ADMIN_COLOUR_PRIORITY)
 	user.visible_message("<span class='warning'>[user] freezes statue-still, glowing an unearthly red.</span>",
 					"<span class='cult'>You see what lies beyond. All is revealed. In this form you find that your voice booms above all others.</span>")
@@ -977,6 +978,7 @@ structure_check() searches for nearby cultist structures required for the invoca
 		CM.Remove(ghost)
 		V.Remove(ghost)
 		//GM.Remove(ghost)
+	REMOVE_TRAIT(user, SCRYING, CULT_TRAIT)
 	user.remove_atom_colour(ADMIN_COLOUR_PRIORITY, RUNE_COLOR_DARKRED)
 	user = null
 	rune_in_use = FALSE
diff --git a/code/game/gamemodes/wizard/artefact.dm b/code/game/gamemodes/wizard/artefact.dm
index 795ac8ec8d2..c8e3fd4de38 100644
--- a/code/game/gamemodes/wizard/artefact.dm
+++ b/code/game/gamemodes/wizard/artefact.dm
@@ -213,6 +213,7 @@
 	force = 15
 	hitsound = 'sound/items/welder2.ogg'
 	var/mob/current_owner
+	var/mob/dead/observer/ghost // owners ghost when active
 
 /obj/item/scrying/Initialize(mapload)
 	. = ..()
@@ -245,9 +246,32 @@
 		current_owner.update_icons()
 
 /obj/item/scrying/attack_self(mob/user as mob)
-	to_chat(user, "<span class='notice'> You can see...everything!</span>")
-	visible_message("<span class='danger'>[user] stares into [src], [user.p_their()] eyes glazing over.</span>")
-	user.ghostize(1)
+	if(in_use)
+		return
+	in_use = TRUE
+	ADD_TRAIT(user, SCRYING, SCRYING_ORB)
+	user.add_atom_colour(COLOR_BLUE, ADMIN_COLOUR_PRIORITY) // stolen spirit rune code
+	user.visible_message("<span class='notice'>[user] stares into [src], [user.p_their()] eyes glazing over.</span>",
+					"<span class='danger'> You stare into [src], you can see the entire universe!</span>")
+	ghost = user.ghostize(TRUE)
+	ghost.name = "Magic Spirit of [ghost.name]"
+	ghost.color = COLOR_BLUE
+	while(!QDELETED(user))
+		if(user.key || QDELETED(src))
+			user.visible_message("<span class='notice'>[user] blinks, returning to the world around [user.p_them()].</span>",
+								"<span class='danger'>You look away from [src].</span>")
+			break
+		if(user.get_active_hand() != src)
+			user.grab_ghost()
+			user.visible_message("<span class='notice'>[user]'s focus is forced away from [src].</span>",
+								"<span class='userdanger'>Your vision is ripped away from [src].</span>")
+			break
+		sleep(5)
+	in_use = FALSE
+	if(QDELETED(user))
+		return
+	user.remove_atom_colour(ADMIN_COLOUR_PRIORITY, COLOR_BLUE)
+	REMOVE_TRAIT(user, SCRYING, SCRYING_ORB)
 
 /////////////////////Multiverse Blade////////////////////
 GLOBAL_LIST_EMPTY(multiverse)
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/examine.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/examine.dm
index 142a08f098e..32920e20fea 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/examine.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/examine.dm
@@ -95,8 +95,14 @@
 					if(blood_DNA)
 						msg += "<span class='warning'>[p_they(TRUE)] [p_have()] [hand_blood_color != "#030303" ? "blood-stained":"oil-stained"] hands!</span>\n"
 				if("eyes")
-					if(iscultist(src) && HAS_TRAIT(src, CULT_EYES))
-						msg += "<span class='boldwarning'>[p_their(TRUE)] eyes are glowing an unnatural red!</span>\n"
+					if(HAS_TRAIT(src, SCRYING))
+						if(iscultist(src) && HAS_TRAIT(src, CULT_EYES))
+							msg += "<span class='boldwarning'>[p_their(TRUE)] glowing red eyes are glazed over!</span>\n"
+						else
+							msg += "<span class='boldwarning'>[p_their(TRUE)] eyes are glazed over.</span>\n"
+					else
+						if(iscultist(src) && HAS_TRAIT(src, CULT_EYES))
+							msg += "<span class='boldwarning'>[p_their(TRUE)] eyes are glowing an unnatural red!</span>\n"
 			continue
 
 	//handcuffed?
@@ -269,10 +275,11 @@
 
 		if(get_int_organ(/obj/item/organ/internal/brain))
 			if(dna.species.show_ssd)
-				if(!key)
-					msg += "<span class='deadsay'>[p_they(TRUE)] [p_are()] totally catatonic. The stresses of life in deep-space must have been too much for [p_them()]. Any recovery is unlikely.</span>\n"
-				else if(!client)
-					msg += "[p_they(TRUE)] [p_have()] suddenly fallen asleep, suffering from Space Sleep Disorder. [p_they(TRUE)] may wake up soon.\n"
+				if(!HAS_TRAIT(src, SCRYING))
+					if(!key)
+						msg += "<span class='deadsay'>[p_they(TRUE)] [p_are()] totally catatonic. The stresses of life in deep-space must have been too much for [p_them()]. Any recovery is unlikely.</span>\n"
+					else if(!client)
+						msg += "[p_they(TRUE)] [p_have()] suddenly fallen asleep, suffering from Space Sleep Disorder. [p_they(TRUE)] may wake up soon.\n"
 
 	if(decaylevel == 1)
 		msg += "[p_they(TRUE)] [p_are()] starting to smell.\n"