diff --git a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/species/station/traits_vr/neutral.dm b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/species/station/traits_vr/neutral.dm
index 53e15ba08ee..89a17e9a91c 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/species/station/traits_vr/neutral.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/living/carbon/human/species/station/traits_vr/neutral.dm
@@ -563,7 +563,7 @@
 	cost = 0
 	custom_only = FALSE
 	var_changes = list("icon_scale_y" = 1.09)
-	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter)
+	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/tallest, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter, /datum/trait/neutral/shortest)
 
 /datum/trait/neutral/taller/apply(var/datum/species/S,var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
 	..()
@@ -576,12 +576,25 @@
 	cost = 0
 	custom_only = FALSE
 	var_changes = list("icon_scale_y" = 1.05)
-	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter)
+	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/tallest, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter, /datum/trait/neutral/shortest)
 
 /datum/trait/neutral/tall/apply(var/datum/species/S,var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
 	..()
 	H.update_transform()
 
+/datum/trait/neutral/tallest
+	name = "Tall, Major"
+	desc = "Your body is way taller than average."
+	sort = TRAIT_SORT_BODYTYPE
+	cost = 0
+	custom_only = FALSE
+	var_changes = list("icon_scale_y" = 1.15)
+	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter, /datum/trait/neutral/shortest)
+
+/datum/trait/neutral/tallest/apply(var/datum/species/S,var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
+	..()
+	H.update_transform()
+
 /datum/trait/neutral/short
 	name = "Short, Minor"
 	desc = "Your body is a bit shorter than average."
@@ -589,7 +602,7 @@
 	cost = 0
 	custom_only = FALSE
 	var_changes = list("icon_scale_y" = 0.95)
-	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter)
+	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/tallest, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter, /datum/trait/neutral/shortest)
 
 /datum/trait/neutral/short/apply(var/datum/species/S,var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
 	..()
@@ -602,12 +615,25 @@
 	cost = 0
 	custom_only = FALSE
 	var_changes = list("icon_scale_y" = 0.915)
-	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/short)
+	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/tallest, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shortest)
 
 /datum/trait/neutral/shorter/apply(var/datum/species/S,var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
 	..()
 	H.update_transform()
 
+/datum/trait/neutral/shortest
+	name = "Short, Major"
+	desc = "Your body is way shorter than average."
+	sort = TRAIT_SORT_BODYTYPE
+	cost = 0
+	custom_only = FALSE
+	var_changes = list("icon_scale_y" = 0.85)
+	excludes = list(/datum/trait/neutral/taller, /datum/trait/neutral/tall, /datum/trait/neutral/tallest, /datum/trait/neutral/short, /datum/trait/neutral/shorter)
+
+/datum/trait/neutral/shortest/apply(var/datum/species/S,var/mob/living/carbon/human/H)
+	..()
+	H.update_transform()
+
 /datum/trait/neutral/obese
 	name = "Bulky, Major"
 	desc = "Your body is much wider than average."
@@ -707,6 +733,13 @@
 	custom_only = FALSE
 	var_changes = list("micro_size_mod" = -0.15)
 
+/datum/trait/neutral/micro_size_down_plus
+	name = "Light Frame, Major"
+	desc = "You are considered much smaller than you are for micro interactions."
+	cost = 0
+	custom_only = FALSE
+	var_changes = list("micro_size_mod" = -0.30)
+
 /datum/trait/neutral/micro_size_up
 	name = "Heavy Frame"
 	desc = "You are considered bigger than you are for micro interactions."
@@ -714,6 +747,13 @@
 	custom_only = FALSE
 	var_changes = list("micro_size_mod" = 0.15)
 
+/datum/trait/neutral/micro_size_up_plus
+	name = "Heavy Frame, Major"
+	desc = "You are considered much bigger than you are for micro interactions."
+	cost = 0
+	custom_only = FALSE
+	var_changes = list("micro_size_mod" = 0.30)
+
 /datum/trait/neutral/digestion_value_up
 	name = "Highly Filling"
 	desc = "You provide notably more nutrition to anyone who makes a meal of you."