diff --git a/code/defines/obj.dm b/code/defines/obj.dm
index 670a75df8f..466ab1fdc7 100644
--- a/code/defines/obj.dm
+++ b/code/defines/obj.dm
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
 /obj/structure/signpost/attack_hand(mob/user as mob)
 	if(tgui_alert(user, "Travel back to ss13?","Return?",list("Yes","No")) == "Yes")
 		if(user.z != src.z)	return
-		user.forceMove(pick(latejoin))
+		user.forceMove(get_turf(pick(latejoin)))
 
 /obj/structure/signpost_fake
 	icon = 'icons/obj/stationobjs.dmi'
diff --git a/code/game/jobs/job_controller.dm b/code/game/jobs/job_controller.dm
index f3168829af..d6e0e25369 100644
--- a/code/game/jobs/job_controller.dm
+++ b/code/game/jobs/job_controller.dm
@@ -969,11 +969,11 @@ var/global/datum/controller/occupations/job_master
 				return
 			to_chat(C, span_filter_warning("Your chosen spawnpoint ([spawnpos.display_name]) is unavailable for your chosen job. Spawning you at the Arrivals shuttle instead."))
 			var/spawning = pick(latejoin)
-			.["turf"] = spawning
+			.["turf"] = get_turf(spawning)
 			.["msg"] = "will arrive at the station shortly"
 	else if(!fail_deadly)
 		var/spawning = pick(latejoin)
-		.["turf"] = spawning
+		.["turf"] = get_turf(spawning)
 		.["msg"] = "has arrived on the station"
 
 /datum/controller/occupations/proc/m_backup_client(var/client/C)	//Same as m_backup, but takes a client entry. Used for vore late joining.
diff --git a/code/game/objects/effects/landmarks.dm b/code/game/objects/effects/landmarks.dm
index c9a134b598..43a4a87240 100644
--- a/code/game/objects/effects/landmarks.dm
+++ b/code/game/objects/effects/landmarks.dm
@@ -21,8 +21,9 @@
 			newplayer_start += loc
 			delete_me = TRUE
 		if("JoinLate") // Bit difference, since we need the spawn point to move.
-			latejoin += loc
-			delete_me = TRUE
+			latejoin += src
+			simulated = TRUE
+			//delete_me = TRUE // see above, moving, always use this list with get_turf
 		if("JoinLateGateway")
 			latejoin_gateway += loc
 			latejoin += loc				//VOREStation Addition
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/admin.dm b/code/modules/admin/admin.dm
index 48287ef138..c7234fe272 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/admin.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/admin.dm
@@ -1033,7 +1033,7 @@ var/datum/announcement/minor/admin_min_announcer = new
 	set name = "Unprison"
 	if (M.z == 2)
 		if (CONFIG_GET(flag/allow_admin_jump))
-			M.loc = pick(latejoin)
+			M.loc = get_turf(pick(latejoin))
 			message_admins("[key_name_admin(usr)] has unprisoned [key_name_admin(M)]", 1)
 			log_admin("[key_name(usr)] has unprisoned [key_name(M)]")
 		else
diff --git a/code/modules/admin/verbs/randomverbs.dm b/code/modules/admin/verbs/randomverbs.dm
index c5cdfb638b..1fca5bd64a 100644
--- a/code/modules/admin/verbs/randomverbs.dm
+++ b/code/modules/admin/verbs/randomverbs.dm
@@ -486,7 +486,7 @@ Traitors and the like can also be revived with the previous role mostly intact.
 
 		if("Arrivals") //Spawn them at a latejoin spawnpoint
 			if(LAZYLEN(latejoin))
-				spawnloc = pick(latejoin)
+				spawnloc = get_turf(pick(latejoin))
 			else if(LAZYLEN(latejoin_tram))
 				spawnloc = pick(latejoin_tram)
 			else
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/dead/observer/observer.dm b/code/modules/mob/dead/observer/observer.dm
index 950af3d629..81f229c8e5 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/dead/observer/observer.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/dead/observer/observer.dm
@@ -132,7 +132,7 @@
 		default_pixel_x = body.default_pixel_x
 		default_pixel_y = body.default_pixel_y
 	if(!T && length(latejoin))
-		T = pick(latejoin)			//Safety in case we cannot find the body's position
+		T = get_turf(pick(latejoin))			//Safety in case we cannot find the body's position
 	if(T)
 		forceMove(T, just_spawned = TRUE)
 	else
diff --git a/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm b/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm
index 4fba837f5b..67d8ed751a 100644
--- a/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/vore/eating/belly_obj_vr.dm
@@ -1213,7 +1213,7 @@
 	else
 		log_debug("[src] (\ref[src]) doesn't have an owner, and dropped someone at a latespawn point!")
 		var/fallback = pick(latejoin)
-		return fallback
+		return get_turf(fallback)
 
 //Yes, it's ""safe"" to drop items here
 /obj/belly/AllowDrop()