diff --git a/code/game/atom/atoms_initializing_EXPENSIVE.dm b/code/game/atom/atoms_initializing_EXPENSIVE.dm
index 7b0965beabb..2568a9e6440 100644
--- a/code/game/atom/atoms_initializing_EXPENSIVE.dm
+++ b/code/game/atom/atoms_initializing_EXPENSIVE.dm
@@ -6,6 +6,7 @@
 	if(QDELING(A))
 		// Check init_start_time to not worry about atoms created before the atoms SS that are cleaned up before this
 		if (A.gc_destroyed > init_start_time)
+			CRASH("QDEL before Initialize at [AREACOORD(A)].")
 			BadInitializeCalls[the_type] |= BAD_INIT_QDEL_BEFORE
 		return TRUE
 
diff --git a/code/modules/plumbing/ducts.dm b/code/modules/plumbing/ducts.dm
index 66f745129be..0247659f5c1 100644
--- a/code/modules/plumbing/ducts.dm
+++ b/code/modules/plumbing/ducts.dm
@@ -56,8 +56,7 @@ All the important duct code:
 		active = FALSE
 		set_anchored(FALSE)
 	else if(!can_anchor())
-		if(mapload)
-			log_mapping("Overlapping ducts detected at [AREACOORD(src)], unanchoring one.")
+		CRASH("Overlapping ducts detected at [AREACOORD(src)], unanchoring one.")
 		// Note that qdeling automatically drops a duct stack
 		return INITIALIZE_HINT_QDEL