diff --git a/code/datums/diseases/advance/symptoms/vision.dm b/code/datums/diseases/advance/symptoms/vision.dm
index 63f485ab4c..1932c23996 100644
--- a/code/datums/diseases/advance/symptoms/vision.dm
+++ b/code/datums/diseases/advance/symptoms/vision.dm
@@ -24,30 +24,48 @@ Bonus
 	transmittable = -3
 	level = 5
 	severity = 4
+	base_message_chance = 50
+	symptom_delay_min = 25
+	symptom_delay_max = 80
+	var/remove_eyes = FALSE
+
+/datum/symptom/visionloss/Start(datum/disease/advance/A)
+	..()
+	if(A.properties["stealth"] >= 4)
+		suppress_warning = TRUE
+	if(A.properties["resistance"] >= 12) //goodbye eyes
+		remove_eyes = TRUE
 
 /datum/symptom/visionloss/Activate(datum/disease/advance/A)
-	..()
-	if(prob(SYMPTOM_ACTIVATION_PROB))
-		var/mob/living/M = A.affected_mob
-		var/obj/item/organ/eyes/eyes = M.getorganslot("eyes_sight")
-		if (!eyes)
-			return	
+	if(!..())
+		return
+	var/mob/living/carbon/M = A.affected_mob
+	var/obj/item/organ/eyes/eyes = M.getorganslot("eye_sight")
+	if(istype(eyes))
 		switch(A.stage)
 			if(1, 2)
-				to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>Your eyes itch.</span>")
+				if(prob(base_message_chance) && !suppress_warning)
+					to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'>Your eyes itch.</span>")
 			if(3, 4)
 				to_chat(M, "<span class='warning'><b>Your eyes burn!</b></span>")
 				M.blur_eyes(10)
 				M.adjust_eye_damage(1)
 			else
-				to_chat(M, "<span class='userdanger'>Your eyes burn horrificly!</span>")
 				M.blur_eyes(20)
 				M.adjust_eye_damage(5)
 				if(eyes.eye_damage >= 10)
 					M.become_nearsighted()
-					if(prob(eyes.eye_damage - 10 + 1))
+				if(prob(eyes.eye_damage - 10 + 1))
+					if(!remove_eyes)
 						if(M.become_blind())
 							to_chat(M, "<span class='userdanger'>You go blind!</span>")
+					else
+						M.visible_message("<span class='warning'>[M]'s eyes fall off their sockets!</span>", "<span class='userdanger'>Your eyes fall off their sockets!</span>")
+						eyes.Remove(M)
+						eyes.forceMove(get_turf(M))
+				else
+					to_chat(M, "<span class='userdanger'>Your eyes burn horrifically!</span>")
+
 
 
 /*
@@ -75,9 +93,13 @@ Bonus
 	stage_speed = -2
 	transmittable = -4
 	level = 4
+	base_message_chance = 7
+	symptom_delay_min = 1
+	symptom_delay_max = 1
 
 /datum/symptom/visionaid/Activate(datum/disease/advance/A)
-	..()
+	if(!..())
+		return
 	var/mob/living/M = A.affected_mob
 	var/obj/item/organ/eyes/eyes = M.getorganslot("eyes_sight")
 	if (!eyes)
@@ -102,6 +124,6 @@ Bonus
 				else if(eyes.eye_damage > 0)
 					M.adjust_eye_damage(-1)
 		else
-			if(prob(SYMPTOM_ACTIVATION_PROB * 3))
+			if(prob(base_message_chance))
 				to_chat(M, "<span class='notice'>[pick("Your eyes feel great.", "You are now blinking manually.", "You don't feel the need to blink.")]</span>")
 	return