diff --git a/code/modules/mob/mob.dm b/code/modules/mob/mob.dm
index b098801da8..f7d10bfb7b 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/mob.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/mob.dm
@@ -155,7 +155,7 @@
 // deaf_message (optional) is what deaf people will see.
 // hearing_distance (optional) is the range, how many tiles away the message can be heard.
 
-/mob/audible_message(message, deaf_message, hearing_distance, self_message)
+/mob/audible_message(message, deaf_message, hearing_distance, self_message, no_ghosts = FALSE)
 	var/range = 7
 	if(hearing_distance)
 		range = hearing_distance
@@ -163,6 +163,8 @@
 		var/msg = message
 		if(self_message && M==src)
 			msg = self_message
+		if(no_ghosts && isobserver(M))
+			continue
 		M.show_message( msg, 2, deaf_message, 1)
 
 // Show a message to all mobs in earshot of this atom
@@ -171,11 +173,13 @@
 // deaf_message (optional) is what deaf people will see.
 // hearing_distance (optional) is the range, how many tiles away the message can be heard.
 
-/atom/proc/audible_message(message, deaf_message, hearing_distance)
+/atom/proc/audible_message(message, deaf_message, hearing_distance, no_ghosts = FALSE)
 	var/range = 7
 	if(hearing_distance)
 		range = hearing_distance
 	for(var/mob/M in get_hearers_in_view(range, src))
+		if(no_ghosts && isobserver(M))
+			continue
 		M.show_message( message, 2, deaf_message, 1)
 
 /mob/proc/Life()
diff --git a/code/modules/mob/say_vr.dm b/code/modules/mob/say_vr.dm
index 66444abf91..1fc97c31e4 100644
--- a/code/modules/mob/say_vr.dm
+++ b/code/modules/mob/say_vr.dm
@@ -172,15 +172,11 @@ proc/get_top_level_mob(var/mob/S)
 	user.log_message(message, INDIVIDUAL_EMOTE_LOG)
 	message = "<b>[user]</b> " + "<i>[message]</i>"
 
-	for(var/mob/M)
-		if(M in list(/mob/living))
-			M.show_message(message)
-
 	if(emote_type == EMOTE_AUDIBLE)
-		user.audible_message(message=message,hearing_distance=1)
+		user.audible_message(message=message,hearing_distance=1, no_ghosts = TRUE)
 	else
-		user.visible_message(message=message,self_message=message,vision_distance=1)
-	log_emote("[key_name(user)] : [message]")
+		user.visible_message(message=message,self_message=message,vision_distance=1, no_ghosts = TRUE)
+	log_emote("[key_name(user)] : (SUBTLER) [message]")
 
 	message = null