diff --git a/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_helpers/slab_abilities.dm b/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_helpers/slab_abilities.dm
index 1b6b1b9cda..1f616b7dbc 100644
--- a/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_helpers/slab_abilities.dm
+++ b/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_helpers/slab_abilities.dm
@@ -179,7 +179,6 @@
 	. = ..()
 
 /obj/item/projectile/kindle/on_hit(atom/target, blocked = FALSE)
-	var/narsiandog_punish = 8
 	if(isliving(target))
 		var/mob/living/L = target
 		if(is_servant_of_ratvar(L) || L.stat || L.has_status_effect(STATUS_EFFECT_KINDLE))
@@ -210,9 +209,9 @@
 				L.flash_act(1,1)
 				if(iscarbon(target))
 					var/mob/living/carbon/C = L
-					C.stuttering = max(narsiandog_punish, C.stuttering)
-					C.drowsyness = max(narsiandog_punish, C.drowsyness)
-					C.confused += narsiandog_punish
+					C.stuttering = max(8, C.stuttering)
+					C.drowsyness = max(8, C.drowsyness)
+					C.confused += CLAMP(16 - C.confused, 0, 8)
 					C.apply_status_effect(STATUS_EFFECT_BELLIGERENT)
 				L.adjustFireLoss(15)
 	..()
diff --git a/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_items/clock_weapons/ratvarian_spear.dm b/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_items/clock_weapons/ratvarian_spear.dm
index f10479c331..2256bbe5b1 100644
--- a/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_items/clock_weapons/ratvarian_spear.dm
+++ b/code/modules/antagonists/clockcult/clock_items/clock_weapons/ratvarian_spear.dm
@@ -13,7 +13,6 @@
 	hitsound = 'sound/weapons/bladeslice.ogg'
 	w_class = WEIGHT_CLASS_BULKY
 	var/bonus_burn = 5
-	var/narsiandog_confuse = 5
 
 /obj/item/clockwork/weapon/ratvarian_spear/ratvar_act()
 	if(GLOB.ratvar_awakens) //If Ratvar is alive, the spear is extremely powerful
@@ -60,9 +59,10 @@
 				if(issilicon(L))
 					L.Knockdown(100)
 				else if(iscultist(L))
-					L.confused += narsiandog_confuse // Spearthrow now confuses enemy cultists + just deals extra damage / sets on fire instead of hardstunning + damage
+					L.confused += CLAMP(10 - L.confused, 0, 5) // Spearthrow now confuses enemy cultists + just deals extra damage / sets on fire instead of hardstunning + damage
 					to_chat(L, "<span class ='userdanger'>[src] crashes into you with burning force, sending you reeling!</span>")
 					L.adjust_fire_stacks(2)
+					L.Knockdown(1)
 					L.IgniteMob()
 				else
 					L.Knockdown(40)
diff --git a/code/modules/antagonists/cult/blood_magic.dm b/code/modules/antagonists/cult/blood_magic.dm
index 5f3856dda1..666e80b5e5 100644
--- a/code/modules/antagonists/cult/blood_magic.dm
+++ b/code/modules/antagonists/cult/blood_magic.dm
@@ -409,7 +409,6 @@
 	name = "Stunning Aura"
 	color = RUNE_COLOR_RED
 	invocation = "Fuu ma'jin."
-	var/ratvarscum_punish = 10
 
 /obj/item/melee/blood_magic/stun/afterattack(atom/target, mob/living/carbon/user, proximity)
 	if(!isliving(target) || !proximity)
@@ -448,16 +447,16 @@
 					S.emp_act(EMP_HEAVY)
 				else if(iscarbon(target))
 					var/mob/living/carbon/C = L
-					C.silent += 6
-					C.stuttering += 15
-					C.cultslurring += 15
+					C.silent += CLAMP(12 - C.silent, 0, 6)
+					C.stuttering += CLAMP(30 - C.stuttering, 0, 15)
+					C.cultslurring += CLAMP(30 - C.cultslurring, 0, 15)
 					C.Jitter(15)
 			else					// cultstun no longer hardstuns + damages hostile cultists, instead debuffs them hard + deals some damage; debuffs for a bit longer since they don't add the clockie belligerent debuff
 				if(iscarbon(target))
 					var/mob/living/carbon/C = L
-					C.stuttering = max(ratvarscum_punish, C.stuttering)
-					C.drowsyness = max(ratvarscum_punish, C.drowsyness)
-					C.confused += ratvarscum_punish
+					C.stuttering = max(10, C.stuttering)
+					C.drowsyness = max(10, C.drowsyness)
+					C.confused += CLAMP(20 - C.confused, 0, 10)
 				L.adjustBruteLoss(15)
 			to_chat(user, "<span class='cultitalic'>In an brilliant flash of red, [L] [iscultist(L) ? "writhes in pain" : "falls to the ground!"]</span>")
 		uses--
diff --git a/code/modules/antagonists/cult/cult_items.dm b/code/modules/antagonists/cult/cult_items.dm
index 6b37b33360..f7382359eb 100644
--- a/code/modules/antagonists/cult/cult_items.dm
+++ b/code/modules/antagonists/cult/cult_items.dm
@@ -676,7 +676,6 @@
 	sharpness = IS_SHARP
 	hitsound = 'sound/weapons/bladeslice.ogg'
 	var/datum/action/innate/cult/spear/spear_act
-	var/ratvarscum_confuse = 5
 
 /obj/item/twohanded/cult_spear/Initialize()
 	. = ..()
@@ -704,7 +703,7 @@
 			if(!L.anti_magic_check())
 				if(is_servant_of_ratvar(L))
 					to_chat(L, "<span class='cultlarge'>\"Kneel for me, scum\"</span>")
-					L.confused += ratvarscum_confuse //confuses and lightly knockdowns + damages hostile cultists instead of hardstunning like before
+					L.confused += CLAMP(10, L.confused, 0, 5) //confuses and lightly knockdowns + damages hostile cultists instead of hardstunning like before
 					L.Knockdown(15)
 					L.adjustBruteLoss(10)
 				else